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Old 03-16-2017, 04:17 PM   #1
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Rock Guard Installation

Leave it to me to destroy my rock guard and not know it until a fellow motorist flagged me down to alert me. However it happened I have no clue (guess a low dip or curb) but anyway I stopped, un-bolted it and threw it in a dumpster. It was broken, partially folded back upon itself and trashed. No damage to the coach or undercarriage.

Now I received a new one from Newmar which came without any instructions and as shown below (see photo). Problem is since I have no instructions and I failed to look closely enough at my original one - I'm unsure how it bolts together.

Contacted Customer service but they've yet to send me instructions.

Anyone out there (yeah, you guys and gals) got a close up photo of your guard attached to and suspended from the chains. I'm not sure how or where to attach the 4-four small metal strips, i.e. how to space them out, and attach to the heavy plastic guard, then hang from the chains which are still attached to my coach.

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Old 03-16-2017, 07:23 PM   #2
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From everything I've read it's nothing more than a marketing vehicle from Newmar
Don't get me wrong I love my Newmar DSDP but have considered just removing it as I've read I just propels stuff onto the toad.
More experience and advice is needed
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You have two connectors like this on the underside of the coach, bolted to the frame rails.



Here are the connections on the mud flap. They use a short piece of chain. I installed quick connects so that it can easily be removed.

Too bad you already bought from Newmar. DuraFlap in Oregon sells a much better quality flap with Newmar logo.

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Don thanks for the pointer about DuraFlap . . .
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Leave it to me to destroy my rock guard and not know it until a fellow motorist flagged me down to alert me. However it happened I have no clue (guess a low dip or curb) but anyway I stopped, un-bolted it and threw it in a dumpster. It was broken, partially folded back upon itself and trashed. No damage to the coach or undercarriage.

Now I received a new one from Newmar which came without any instructions and as shown below (see photo). Problem is since I have no instructions and I failed to look closely enough at my original one - I'm unsure how it bolts together.

Contacted Customer service but they've yet to send me instructions.

Anyone out there (yeah, you guys and gals) got a close up photo of your guard attached to and suspended from the chains. I'm not sure how or where to attach the 4-four small metal strips, i.e. how to space them out, and attach to the heavy plastic guard, then hang from the chains which are still attached to my coach.

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Now that you have a replacement rock guard, I'm going to complicate your thinking by offering another option - not replacing the full-width rock guard. There seem to be a variety of opinions out there on the efficacy of these guards. Some argue that the mud flaps already in place behind the rear tires are much better positioned and effective at blocking rocks. They also opine that the large low hanging full-width flap is more of a decorative advertisement for Newmar than it is an effective rock deterrent and may even result in launching more rocks. After two Newmar coaches (which we have loved) and multiple issues with the full-width flap and damage to our toad, we took the advice of the skeptics and went "skirtless". We have since traveled over 10,000 miles on highways and gravel and have had no further toad damage.
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On our all-summer Alaska trip when we got to Whitehorse, Yukon, a couple motorhome owners were actually taking off their full-width stiff 'rock' guards. We went over and talked to them and they showed us the layer of rock laying at the base of their toad's windshield and pits in the hoods. We had just traveled through the same area and didn't have one ding. We didn't have the rear 'rock' guard/advertisement, only the flaps behind each tires. We never received damage to the toad.

Later, while traveling through Salt Lake City on a very rainy day, I began watching motorhomes traveling in the opposite direction. Those that had the full guard has an arc of water hitting the hood of their toads. Those without the guard had the water aiming at the tires. That convinced us.
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Now that you have a replacement rock guard, I'm going to complicate your thinking by offering another option - not replacing the full-width rock guard. There seem to be a variety of opinions out there on the efficacy of these guards. Some argue that the mud flaps already in place behind the rear tires are much better positioned and effective at blocking rocks. They also opine that the large low hanging full-width flap is more of a decorative advertisement for Newmar than it is an effective rock deterrent and may even result in launching more rocks. After two Newmar coaches (which we have loved) and multiple issues with the full-width flap and damage to our toad, we took the advice of the skeptics and went "skirtless". We have since traveled over 10,000 miles on highways and gravel and have had no further toad damage.
I agree totally. I removed the rear flap in Whitehorse, YK on our way to Alaska three years ago because our toad was covered with stones every day. This after raising it to its maximum height prior to departure.
After removing the flap, no more stones.
I left the flap in the CG in Whitehorse and have not replaced it. Further, I was using a full width Blueox KarGard which I have not used at all since our return from AK. I found this device was causing stones from the rear flap to bounce off and result in rock chips on the rear cap of the coach.
In 10K or more miles I have not had a rear flap or any other so called protection devices other than the flaps behind the rear duals.
The rear of the coach and toad stay cleaner as does the engine compartment. No more hassle installing, removing and storing protection devices.
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Not to hijack this thread but do any states require mud flaps or rock guards be installed ?
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Not to hijack this thread but do any states require mud flaps or rock guards be installed ?
Not 100% positive but I believe the flaps behind the duals are the only requirement if any. Have you ever seen a semi with a full rear flap?
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Sure wish I knew you needed one. I have a NEWMAR rear flap hanging on my shop wall that I would have given you!!
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I appreciate everyone's input, opinions and feedback - but I'm going to proceed with replacing the rock guard with the new, same OEM version. Will see what becomes of it from our experience.
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