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12-16-2018, 01:57 AM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
Posts: 24,125
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Bill.....again, congrats on the new coach. Those that poo poo the SaniCon typically have never used one. The hose stores in your wet bay, never has to be disconnected or even cleaned. If you pump out your black and then your gray, you just cap the hose end and put it away. No more dragging hoses around, cleaning them, have them drip on your shoes and then trying to delicately stuff it somewhere without getting wet.
I've been using the SaniCon since 2005.
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12-16-2018, 02:51 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 289
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don
"timekeeper"......Please show us a photo of the SaniCon unit you own and tried, but didn't like. You must have had one to have the opinion you provided.
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Don, If u read correctly, never said I had a SaniCon. As I stated IMO an item that is not needed unless you feel conventional dumping is not for u.
Power Steering,Comfort Drive and Disc Brakes are great products, I’m not against progress. Also never had a standard hose drip on my foot,never had to clean it out ( except to backwash before disconnecting). I saw the extra clutter in the backwash bay it provided and made my decision that it was an unneeded item for me “IMO”.
You really have to realize that not everyone has the same opinion
I didn’t purchase the fancy drive warning,lane midigation system either...another item that I felt was unneeded....As my farther used to say “ different strokes, different folks”
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12-16-2018, 04:13 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Full Timing From SW Florida
Posts: 1,950
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I looked at having SaniCon installed. In a total of 3 years full timing we have been stuck at 2 or 3 places where their ground sewer inlet was about the same level as the RVs sewer outlet. Obviously during those times it would have been great to have a system to pump my black water.
I guess the bottom line for me is that installing the system just isn't worth it. Like someone else mentioned it is another system that can and will fail. It only takes me a few minutes to dump my black tank and backflush it several times. With macerating toilets there are never any solids anyway.
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12-16-2018, 12:08 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Nor'easters Club Fleetwood Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 689
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Very pleased with the Sanicon system and don't miss the old traditional way with the huge slinky at all!
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12-16-2018, 12:34 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
Posts: 24,125
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I try to avoid providing negative opinions of things I've never tried! I pass and let those who have tried a product rate it. Many who give negative opinions of the SaniCon, seem to forget that those who like them, didn't start using them on their very first day of camping. I've been RVing for over 45 years, I do know how a 3" hose works and the dirty job of cleaning and storing it.
I just never see why someone adds a negative review of something they never tried.
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2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 (Freightliner)
2019 Ford Raptor
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12-16-2018, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Glendora, CA
Posts: 1,343
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I appreciate hearing the pros and cons, here, and also know that some things do NOT need to be experienced, in order to stay away from; hence me never trying Crack, Heroin, or jumping from a plane without a parachute. LOL
Seriously, though, let’s keep the info and feedback coming...it’s something we’re all benefiting from. Just as those who don’t want to spend $4k on a radio system just in order to get the 360 cameras, we can’t criticize those who HAVE spent that money and truly love that system.
Me? I’m just looking for perfection...for free! [emoji23]
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12-16-2018, 01:02 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 6,427
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don
I try to avoid providing negative opinions of things I've never tried! I pass and let those who have tried a product rate it. Many who give negative opinions of the SaniCon, seem to forget that those who like them, didn't start using them on their very first day of camping. I've been RVing for over 45 years, I do know how a 3" hose works and the dirty job of cleaning and storing it.
I just never see why someone adds a negative review of something they never tried.
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Excellent point Don. I actually bought my first sanicon last year out of curiosity.
At that time there was a lot of conversation about the bad install and disappointing progress to rectify. What struck me is that with all of the trouble, people where still using it. I was perplexed as to what I was missing out on, as I had never had trouble with a gravity drain.
I decided to try it out, and I am glad I did. So much cleaner to use, and faster to store. I am a happy convert, and glad I gave it a try.
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12-16-2018, 01:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Glendora, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redbaron73
Excellent point Don. I actually bought my first sanicon last year out of curiosity.
At that time there was a lot of conversation about the bad install and disappointing progress to rectify. What struck me is that with all of the trouble, people where still using it. I was perplexed as to what I was missing out on, as I had never had trouble with a gravity drain.
I decided to try it out, and I am glad I did. So much cleaner to use, and faster to store. I am a happy convert, and glad I gave it a try.
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And, the GOOD news is...
DS Don is close enough to do MY install when I ever decide!! Right Don? ;-)
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12-16-2018, 01:08 PM
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Senior Member
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 9,751
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NH Dave
Very pleased with the Sanicon system and don't miss the old traditional way with the huge slinky at all!
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Yep, and I've removed, taken apart, purchased a impeller replacement kit, and put all back in place.
Still wouldn't go back to the slinky !
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12-16-2018, 07:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Smithton, IL
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Here are my two cents worth. I've used it just once, an RV dump in the Pilot RV lane. Unscrew 1" cap, insert adapter, open black tank drain valve, push switch. Repeat for gray tank, remove adapter, screw on cap, put hose in bay. Sure I want to go back to bayonet fittings, stuffing a collapsible hose in a square vinyl post cover then capping the end. Sanicon makes the most undesirable task an easy thing. I'll never go back.
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2019 Dutch Star 4363 Freightliner
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12-17-2018, 03:00 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: AZ
Posts: 6,425
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Has the Sanicon 600 option in the 2018 and 2019 Dutch Stars had some issues, Absolutely!
The pump is mounted upside down, keeping it from draining out, and the outlet hose is extremely fragile. Some have remounted the pump correctly, others are still waiting for Newmar to get their act together and provide the “official fix”. The hose can be covered with a nylon cover that seems to provide the much needed protection of the hose
To answer the OP’s question:
Is the Sanicon option a good idea? I would for sure order it again, to me the cleanliness, speed and convenience makes it worth it to me. So much easier then dealing with the stinky slinky and all of it’s accessories.
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12-17-2018, 06:51 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Full Timing From SW Florida
Posts: 1,950
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don
I try to avoid providing negative opinions of things I've never tried! I pass and let those who have tried a product rate it. Many who give negative opinions of the SaniCon, seem to forget that those who like them, didn't start using them on their very first day of camping. I've been RVing for over 45 years, I do know how a 3" hose works and the dirty job of cleaning and storing it.
I just never see why someone adds a negative review of something they never tried.
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Holly Cow.....relax! I didn't mean to step on your toes and you should not take my comments as a "negative review" of your SaniCon system. I just said I considered it and it wasn't for me. You are getting your panties in a wad over nothing. You like the system and you stated as much. I decided against it and I expressed that.
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12-17-2018, 07:14 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
Posts: 24,125
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"FLJOE"....my comment wasn't directed at you!
"CaptainGizmo".....I'll help anyone install anything if they want to come by my house. Too many tools to travel.
Lastly, I'll apologize for my comment about those who haven't tried something, shouldn't opine about it. I've been using the SaniCon for 15 years, have had friends buy it and love it and just disagree when someone poo poo's it without trying.
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2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 (Freightliner)
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12-17-2018, 08:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Glendora, CA
Posts: 1,343
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don
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"CaptainGizmo".....I'll help anyone install anything if they want to come by my house. Too many tools to travel.
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Of COURSE! Have beers-WILL travel!
You’re the best!
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