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Old 01-26-2012, 04:09 PM   #1
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Our 2012 Ventana LE came with a Winegard Road Trip stationary satellite dish. I am considering upgrading it to an in motion dish using an upgrade kit. Was wondering if anyone else has done this and what was the result.

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Old 01-26-2012, 06:26 PM   #2
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Have not tried an upgrade, however. ....... In Motion means a dome, Domes can see one KU band bird at a time. Now with a single receiver on DISH, or DirecTV (NOT DirecHDTV) this is not a problem, But if you have DirecHDTV, domes do not work for HD, period. No way to fix it either. (They work fine for DirecTV though, just not HD)

On Dish network, if you have one receiver.. no problem, many domes (make sure you get the right one) can switch from sat to sat fast enough to keep the receiver happy, they can do both SD and HD, no sweat.. But if you either 2 (or more) receivers or a dual input DVR, then less you choose to watch just one satellite all the time you will have a problem with one receiver needing one sat, and another a different sat (and if you have a 3rd, well there are 3 sats) Thus you will have only limited joy with a dome.

Of course you can use the dome to record your "Daytime Drama" as you drive and then set up a tripod when you get to the park to catch multi-shows in the evening.

next: If you are going to use in-motion, remember the law about TV's where the driver can see 'em or use DVR's to record for later playback (how I did it) I won't bore you with the law save to say that if the driver can see the TV, ... Well, that is a no-no. And I know for a fact tickets for that have been issued (NOT TO ME, I was the dispatcher for the trooper who did it though, had to have Sgt look up section of law for him).

Finally,, Domes come in 3 types that I know of... One can see one bird at a time and requires manual input to change satellites.
The next two can see either two, or three, (or more in theory) under the control of the receiver (you want this kind with Dish)

LNB's come in 2x2 flavors.. Single and Dual, Single means one output, ONE RECEIVER, you do not want this kind.. Dual means two outputs and 2 or more receivers.

The other applies only to duals.. Dish/Direct Has to do with how they choose between Odd and Even transponders.. If you choose DISH, it does not matter which you get as a Dish receiver can figure it out (Check Switch) you need Direct type for DirecTV though.

But if you are going to use DirecTV (no HD) than a simple dual-output LNB is all you need, and the 1-2-3 satellite type does not matter either.

Short true story: Fellow camper complained "I got a great signal on the meter but no picture"

I made a "house call" his automatic rooftop dish was pointed, per it's controller, at Satellite 119, and yes, he had a nice strong (90's) signal.

HE was subscribed to DirecTV however.. Beep, beep beep beep, grind a bit, pulse a bit more and ... PICTURE (I reset controller to 101) hey, I'm a Wiz when it comes to hitting forehead with heal of hand errors .

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Old 01-28-2012, 02:35 PM   #3
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We just pitched the dome and went with the Winegard HD and Direct TV for the Moho and stick house as well. Had the factory junk the old Sony and went with a 32" flat screen using the HDMI input. Great pic and I can control both DVRs from my iPhone. Great Direct TV plans <www.skidude.net> as well as unlimited everything cell plans from 59.99/ month
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Our 2012 Ventana LE came with a Winegard Road Trip stationary satellite dish. I am considering upgrading it to an in motion dish using an upgrade kit. Was wondering if anyone else has done this and what was the result.

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Unless your really have to watch TV while going down the road, I'd stick to the stationary dish. When it rains, domes don't work worth a hoot-even when sprayed with Dome Guard or some other water repellant.
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Old 01-28-2012, 02:51 PM   #5
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I've found the in motion dome to be very handy. Glad I have it and will always have an in motion dome. The first main use was 5 years of Gkids with us all summer. Having the SAT TV available was great. Now that we are about done with the Gkids, a use that was secondary is now primary. That is quickly finding a spot on the site where we can receive SAT TV. When I go to register, I turn on the dome. By the time I am ready to drive to the site the dome has locked on to the SAT. As I pull into the site, if there are trees, I can immediately tell if we have SAT TV. A little change in location gets me SAT TV. This feature alone is worth the price of the in motion unit.
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I agree the in motion can be handy, however the industry seems headed towards HD formats. From a picture quality HD can't be beat. We augmented the TV with the Apple TV which allows us to stream Netflix, Hulu etc from the Apple unit or, most handily the iPad. Can even mirror the iPad desktop to the TV. It's brought us a whole new viewing experience.
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Unless your really have to watch TV while going down the road, I'd stick to the stationary dish. When it rains, domes don't work worth a hoot-even when sprayed with Dome Guard or some other water repellant.
I have to respectfully disagree. The old Winegard SD 2004 SD system I had was sensitive to rain, fog, birds, you name it. However, I switched to a Winegard SK-3005 HD system and I haven't had a single instance of rain fade. This holds true for both my house and my MH. Maybe I'm lucky but this system is wonderful.
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I have to respectfully disagree. The old Winegard SD 2004 SD system I had was sensitive to rain, fog, birds, you name it. However, I switched to a Winegard SK-3005 HD system and I haven't had a single instance of rain fade. This holds true for both my house and my MH. Maybe I'm lucky but this system is wonderful.
I have the exact same dish. I was referring to the plastic domes used for viewing while driving down the road.
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I have the exact same dish. I was referring to the plastic domes used for viewing while driving down the road.
We have a trackvision in-motion dome and it take a rain storm for us to loose signal.
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My question is just this......"How in Blue Blazes can you Watch Television with an in Motion system while you are driving down the road?"
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My question is just this......"How in Blue Blazes can you Watch Television with an in Motion system while you are driving down the road?"
Wife used to lie in bed and watch TV all the time while I drove. Of course I just watched the road.

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