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06-22-2018, 07:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Naples, Florida
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We just ordered the shower head from the London Aire and the Aqua View recirculator for water conservation on our New Aire. The shower head has many advantages over the standard New Aire rain head and has variable flow control. It was a special order and we have to wait till we pick it up July 16 to see if it works.
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06-22-2018, 09:20 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
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I have heard of people getting a second water pump and re routing the grey water to the toilet supply line. That way you rinse the toilet with grey water. Have heard it works well for longer stays.
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06-22-2018, 09:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 600
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Neil
How do you transfer gray water to black water tanks?
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2020 London Aire 4543
2019 Dodge Ram 1500. Emerald Isle NC/ Old Beau Roaring Gap NC
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06-23-2018, 07:41 AM
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Registered User
Newmar Owners Club Appalachian Campers Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Midlothian, VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 96kpmjmm
Neil
How do you transfer gray water to black water tanks?
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Kevin,
Get one of these Valterra Gate Valves that go on your coach sewer connection in between the hose and the coach IF you have the hose even connected (not required). Then you open GRAY to put water pressure against the gate, then you open black which will back flow gray into black as it's higher pressure. Then close black and then close gray.
I have yet to do this but probably will this week as I'm at a CG with no sewer for 7 days (they do offer pump out service but I'm not going to use it, I'll use this system if needed).
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06-23-2018, 08:15 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: St. Pete, FL
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Water conservation 101: If it’s yellow let it mellow. If it’s brown flush it down.
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06-23-2018, 09:12 AM
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Registered User
Newmar Owners Club Appalachian Campers Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Midlothian, VA
Posts: 4,774
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First shower with Oxygenics PowerMassage:
I prefer the waterpik! Oxygenics doesn't have a cutoff position, waterpik does, I prefer the water pattern (full circle of jets) on the waterpik and the more solid slightly heavier head of the waterpik.
I still have my test hat on, I ordered a Oxygenics PowerSelect which will be here Tuesday before I make my final verdict.
They all have good gpm of approximately 1.8 gpm so that objective is achieved. Now it's just a matter of spray options and cutoff (oxygenics power select has a trickle mode). While the oxygenics did have a jet mode which was good, it's not something I'd normally use other then maybe for cleaning the shower.
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06-23-2018, 10:05 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Originally Posted by NealC
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Won't that make shampooing your hair a little tougher?
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06-23-2018, 10:12 AM
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Registered User
Newmar Owners Club Appalachian Campers Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Midlothian, VA
Posts: 4,774
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Originally Posted by JT Oregon
Won't that make shampooing your hair a little tougher?
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No sir. Saving water! And as it has a brim all around it collects water which I use to brush my teeth in after.
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06-23-2018, 10:18 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 600
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Great thank you, let me know how it works
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2020 London Aire 4543
2019 Dodge Ram 1500. Emerald Isle NC/ Old Beau Roaring Gap NC
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06-23-2018, 10:42 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: MI
Posts: 194
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NealC
Kevin,
Get one of these Valterra Gate Valves that go on your coach sewer connection in between the hose and the coach IF you have the hose even connected (not required). Then you open GRAY to put water pressure against the gate, then you open black which will back flow gray into black as it's higher pressure. Then close black and then close gray.
I have yet to do this but probably will this week as I'm at a CG with no sewer for 7 days (they do offer pump out service but I'm not going to use it, I'll use this system if needed).
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Water level is the factor here. If the water in the black water tank is higher than the grey you are going to have black water going into the grey. You also risk this from the back wash that will occur unless you close the valves while grey is still going into the black. You better be fast
Personally I would never do this.
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06-26-2018, 03:04 PM
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#25
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Registered User
Newmar Owners Club Appalachian Campers Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Midlothian, VA
Posts: 4,774
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I screwed up and ordered the Oxygenics PowerSelect shower head instead of the handheld wand so that's going back :( Very hard to find these for whatever reason and not the greatest reviews. I'm probably going to stick with the Waterpik which has a quality feel and works well. If I can find a powerselect in Walmart or Lowes, as they are resellers, in my travels, I'll report back.
But thank you whomever above put me on to the water cutoff and flow control option. I've been looking for a way to cutoff the water at the wall connection for about a year now! I saw one when I did my FPU in a friend's DSDP and could never find the thing until now! It goes inline with the hose, no brainer to install and works great!
Brushed Nickel Shower Head Shut-Off Valve
Picture is with the shutoff valve installed and the waterpik wand.
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06-26-2018, 03:09 PM
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#26
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 2,007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NealC
My fellow Newmarians
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Don't you have other options?
Turn down the water flow at the faucets.
Take a Navy shower - turn on get wet, turn off soap up, turn on soap off
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06-26-2018, 03:12 PM
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Registered User
Newmar Owners Club Appalachian Campers Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Midlothian, VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dexters
Don't you have other options?
Turn down the water flow at the faucets.
Take a Navy shower - turn on get wet, turn off soap up, turn on soap off
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No, it's a single rotating lever so you can't adjust the flow, that would be an obvious fix. This is shower head only.
#2 - that's what is done but trying to turn off the water at the wand with slippery hands is no fun. Turning the lever on/off is easier but you lose the temp setting but it's what I typically do. The wall side lever I just installed will be far easier to use and for those with higher flow shower heads that need to save water when not on a sewer hookup could benefit from this simple install. This way you can keep your 2.5 gpm shower head on and save water only when you need to. I need to try the 2.5 gpm head again with the flow control doofer but I do like the waterpik head.
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06-26-2018, 03:16 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 4,580
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