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Old 06-22-2019, 05:48 PM   #1
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Shower access panel?

Hi all, new guy here and pretty new to the RV world. Sadly I've been learning everything the hard way. Had some winterizing issues that I've been fixing, almost out of the woods I think. The final issue (I hope) is replacing the shower faucet which should be a 5 minute job, except I can't seem to find an access panel? It's a 2006 Newmar Kountry Star. I find it difficult to believe that there wouldn't be a way to get to the back of the faucet but it sure looks that way. I can always make my own I suppose but thought I should ask before I start cutting.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
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Welcome. I’ve moved your post here to the Newmar section to get some owner input.
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Hi all, new guy here and pretty new to the RV world. Sadly I've been learning everything the hard way. Had some winterizing issues that I've been fixing, almost out of the woods I think. The final issue (I hope) is replacing the shower faucet which should be a 5 minute job, except I can't seem to find an access panel? It's a 2006 Newmar Kountry Star. I find it difficult to believe that there wouldn't be a way to get to the back of the faucet but it sure looks that way. I can always make my own I suppose but thought I should ask before I start cutting.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Not my brand, but look on the outside for a small door. Probably with a lock. That is how I can access the back of my shower.
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Old 06-22-2019, 10:00 PM   #4
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Our 2004 Newmar MADP does not have any access from the wall (bedroom) behind the shower valve. I always figured that I would have to cut an access hole and fabricate a cover from the cut out wall panel to cover the hole if I ever had to access the shower plumbing. The job would be pretty straightforward. That would be way preferable to cutting the shower surround to gain access.

What is behind the shower plumbing?
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Old 06-22-2019, 10:03 PM   #5
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Hi - Call Newmar and ask them where the access to the shower plumbing is. Not sure how many owners of your model and year are on this board.


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Welcome to iRV2, and the Newmar family.

On my 99, the shower taps are on an extender out of the shower wall , removing the extender from the wall allows JUST enough space to reach behind to loosen the nuts holding the elbow to the back of the tap set .

I'd hate to think of the work involved if there was a problem with the elbow or the pex coming up fro the floor.
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Hi Baffled,
Welcome to the Newmar Owners Forum. My 05 KSDP has no access panel. There are 4 screws one can access from the shower side. They remove the entire hot/cold assembly from the wall. Have not done it but this may allow access to the fixture components and connections.
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There isn't any outside door access, that would be to easy.

The kitchen cupboards are behind the shower so I'm pretty sure I know where there should be an access door.

Not sure what an extender is but as far as I can tell there isn't anything that can be removed to get in there.

There is a mount for the faucet held on by 4 screws, I assumed that I could remove the screws and pull it out enough to access the plumbing but no such luck. The lines come in with short 90 fittings so it barely moves away from the wall.

I'd call Newmar but doubt they're around on the weekend. I have a 12" long 1/8" drill bit that I can probably fit through behind the 4 screw block that holds the faucet. It would at least show me where to cut in an access panel. Sounds like there isn't currently one, another design flaw.

We're off on another camping trip tomorrow so I may put this off until I get back. I will let all know how this gets resolved.

Thanks for the suggestions.
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I have a 2008 KSDP and it also has what I'd call an "extender" nose-piece thing held on with four screws. The "extender" nose-piece appears to be a plastic molding that a regular faucet is attached to.

I haven't needed to do this yet, but it looks like you just remove those four screws (good luck -- mine are starting to rust), and pull the whole nose-piece extender with faucet attached off the shower wall. Then once you have it off, you can remove the PEX pipes and remove the old faucet by unscrewing the nuts from the back -- and install a new one.

The faucet looks like a standard size to me -- same as in our 5th Wheel trailer.
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I have a 2008 KSDP and it also has what I'd call an "extender" nose-piece thing held on with four screws. The "extender" nose-piece appears to be a plastic molding that a regular faucet is attached to.

I haven't needed to do this yet, but it looks like you just remove those four screws (good luck -- mine are starting to rust), and pull the whole nose-piece extender with faucet attached off the shower wall. Then once you have it off, you can remove the PEX pipes and remove the old faucet by unscrewing the nuts from the back -- and install a new one.

The faucet looks like a standard size to me -- same as in our 5th Wheel trailer.
The "extender" piece only pulls out about 3/4" so not much access. I did manage to sardine my hand behind it and loosen one line a bit. Might be able to get some channel locks back there for the other one, or perhaps my wife's smaller hand
More concerned with hooking the lines back up. I'll give it a whirl when we're back from our trip, don't want to open a can of worms the day before we're leaving.
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In my CS, the shower faucet is mounted to an aluminum plate. That plate is mounted to the shower wall with a screw in each corner. I can remove the 4 screws that hold the aluminum plate to the shower wall, pull the whole thing an inch or so from the wall then pull up and there's enough slack in the water lines to reach behind and unscrew the lines from the faucet.

If I simply try to pull the plate straight out from the shower wall, the 90* fittings on the back of the faucet will catch on the shower wall cut-out and keep it from coming out far enough. Hence the need to lift it upwards to clear the water line fittings.

There is no back side access panel.
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Thank you to all the good people that offered suggestions and advice. I got it done, had a hard time believing that anyone would design such an awkward system, it would make more sense to put an access panel in the cupboard behind it, but what do I know. I was able to move the extender (now that I know what that is) to the left and tip it down enough to get about 1.5" clearance which was good enough to get my oafish mitts in to get it done. Hopefully that's the end of the water issues.

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Glad to hear you got it. I'm sure I'll have to replace my shower faucet one of these days. The vacuum breaker in them doesn't last forever. Ours has squirted water twice now on the first use of a trip. But once we're using the shower again daily, it works fine. But it won't last forever. I hear the clock ticking.
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Glad to hear you got it. I'm sure I'll have to replace my shower faucet one of these days. The vacuum breaker in them doesn't last forever. Ours has squirted water twice now on the first use of a trip. But once we're using the shower again daily, it works fine. But it won't last forever. I hear the clock ticking.
Mine had a crack in it, when you turned the water on it sprayed out of the hose attachment at the faucet. You still got wet but not as intended. Still have some other issues I'll be posting soon
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