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Old 01-31-2018, 10:47 AM   #1
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Silverleaf regret?

Am considering moving from a nice class C to a newmar DP, probably DS 3736. reading through all the posts re problems, troubleshooting, glitches, etc with silverleaf has given me pause. I don't want to spend a lot of time figuring out and fixing technical systems issues, vs enjoying the road

Am i overreacting to forum posts which naturally skew toward problems? Or do any of you owners regret buying into this class given your subsequent existence with silverleaf, etc?

Thanks for any input and perspective
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:04 AM   #2
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Am considering moving from a nice class C to a newmar DP, probably DS 3736. reading through all the posts re problems, troubleshooting, glitches, etc with silverleaf has given me pause. I don't want to spend a lot of time figuring out and fixing technical systems issues, vs enjoying the road

Am i overreacting to forum posts which naturally skew toward problems? Or do any of you owners regret buying into this class given your subsequent existence with silverleaf, etc?

Thanks for any input and perspective
I was unaware that the Silverleaf system had been brought down to the Dutch Star or is it available as a special request. In any way, I have Silverleaf on my LADP and really like the system. Yes, I have had to replace a module this past year, but the ease of controlling sub systems within the coach is slick and concise.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:08 AM   #3
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I have an earlier Silverleaf whole house system in my rig. No problems with it.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:16 AM   #4
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It appears the biggest problems noted here have been fixed by Silverleaf. IMHO the ‘problems’ look worse here because the people posting are very smart (& brave) people who can & want to repair almost anything themselves and they’re generously sharing their knowledge & experiences with us which takes up a lot of posting space. A big thank you to those generous geniuses—keep it coming. We plan on making sure it works before leaving the factory. But if there’s a failure after leaving, we have some great resources available here.
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Am considering moving from a nice class C to a newmar DP, probably DS 3736.
You won't be "bothered" by SilverLeaf in the DS, since it is not available.

SilverLeaf works great. Love it.

Prediction. Coaches without networked automation of all the devices on board will be considered "old fashioned" on the used market in a few years. It is the future. Something to consider when buying a "new" coach today.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:50 AM   #6
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Thanks for the clarification. Have been going back and forth on NA & DS and got my wires crossed. Same question still applies for any unit with it, so i also appreciate the replies with perspective
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Thanks for the clarification. Have been going back and forth on NA & DS and got my wires crossed.
I was doing the same thing last August: 37' DS vs 34' NA. It finally dawned on me that the 37' DS only offered bigger bathrooms over the 34' NA when considering floor plans. Big bathrooms are a low priority for us. So much value and "future proofing" baked in to the NA, in my opinion. As a "state of the art" coach, it should hold it's value much better in the future.
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I was unaware that the Silverleaf system had been brought down to the Dutch Star or is it available as a special request. In any way, I have Silverleaf on my LADP and really like the system. Yes, I have had to replace a module this past year, but the ease of controlling sub systems within the coach is slick and concise.
We too have an LA and never had any problems
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Good perspective. Well be looking at and driving both, and i mostly share your POV re bathrooms. Thanks
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Our 37' DS has almost all the options of the NA with the exception of the glass dash and silverleaf. We have King Aire floors with heat, Mountain Aire and Essex wall board, counters, and fabrics, and Essex paint colors. I actually prefer the analog instruments and I don't need any more sophistication in electronics. I can see enough potential problems with what I have. I sure do like the extra room over a NA too. Our coach optioned out was about the same price as the NA's I've looked at, and it has 450 HP. A big plus for me.
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I have Silverleaf too, in my Essex, love it and Silverleaf has great customer support if you have questions.

SilverLeaf is a distributed control system meaning each device is independent on the network. If you have a problem with one system it does not take down your whole coach.

This link shows what the system is composed of in my coach: 2015 King Aire / Essex | SilverLeaf Electronics Technical Resources
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You maybe mixing up two systems if looking for old coach this link has the two systems to look at.
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Our 37' DS has almost all the options of the NA with the exception of the glass dash and silverleaf. We have King Aire floors with heat, Mountain Aire and Essex wall board, counters, and fabrics, and Essex paint colors. I actually prefer the analog instruments and I don't need any more sophistication in electronics. I can see enough potential problems with what I have. I sure do like the extra room over a NA too. Our coach optioned out was about the same price as the NA's I've looked at, and it has 450 HP. A big plus for me.
You could put a solid gold toilet in it and when it’s time to sell/trade it will be priced the same as every other Dutch Star. Comparing a short Dutch Star to a New Aire is apples and oranges. Silverleaf is a super premium feature and nothing less. The glass dash and keyless ignition is the way of the future and also a super premium feature. Side radiator and Mountain Aire level interior finish isn’t shabby either. Resale will be far higher.
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We have Silverleaf in our new MA, and while it takes some time and patience to get accustomed, it has not given us any problems as yet. But, being the Luddite that I am, I would prefer to have direct individual and separate control over most of my coach functions. I just don't trust all this "integration." Now, excuse me please while I go listen to some 8 Track tapes...
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