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Old 11-14-2012, 12:45 PM   #1
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Squeeks and groans

I have owned 3 45 ft diesel pushers. two country coaches, one monaco, and now a new king aire. It seems to me when traveling down the highway on uneven or rough roads i get alot more squeeks and groans coming from walls on my newmar . My coach has the full wall slide and two smaller slides on opposite wall. I can understand this may due to a full wall slide with such a big chunk so to speak taken out of the side of coach. when i go over driveways you can really here it. even traveling on the beautiful highways that California has , lol, it seems that both sides of coach has more squeeks and groans than any of my previous coaches. I guess i am just being to damn picky I love my coach , but has anybody with the same coach experianced any of these noises
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:48 PM   #2
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Getting ready to order a similar layour Newmar Dutch Star, the 4018.

I am going to check the "No squecks and groans" option - LOL!

Guess I will find out next spring when I get the rig. My curent Newmar has 4 slideouts and is pretty solid and quiet.

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Old 11-15-2012, 05:55 AM   #3
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On my two slide coach we have the squeaks also and I have the slides locked.
When the rubber slide seals rub together when closed it will happen,
RUB some 303 Protectorate on seals may cut down noise some.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:26 PM   #4
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Hung wall sidewalls squeak more than laminated sidewalls, ditto the Newmar wooden subfloor vs. laminated subfloors. I used to sell Newmar, Beaver, Safari, National, Winnebago, Georgie Boy, Fleetwood coaches. Newmar and the low-end Beaver and Safari coaches had hung sidewalls and squeaked the most(Newmar copied their sidewall construction from Holiday Rambler, whose construction transferred to the other Monaco brands on the lower end models.). The sidewalls are also wavier than most laminated sidewalls.

The high-end Country Coaches, Monaco brands, used steel framing in the sidewalls and laminated construction. The construction methodology and and extra weight made for a quieter coach, smoother ride.

Having said that, nobody beats Newmar for insulation, be it sidewall, roof or sub-floor, even the belly. Thickest walls, dual insulation. And hung side walls don't delaminate, have more frame members, more direct wiring and convenient switches and outlet placement.

When I'd walk into a Newmar vs. other brands, it was always more comfortable temp. wise, no interior condensation and quieter as well.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:34 AM   #5
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Hey Jeff Regan,

Thanks for the interesting technical perspective...

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Squeeks and groans

Thanks jeff on your comment on sidewalls. Makes sense to me
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:20 PM   #7
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On Newmar coaches, the walls are standing on a wood floor that is laid on top of the chassis frame. The walls are held in place with long bolts that go through the wood floor into the frame below. The walls have no direct contact with the chassis frame. That kind of design means the walls will move independently of the chassis frame. It has to squeak and groan.
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On Newmar coaches, the walls are standing on a wood floor that is laid on top of the chassis frame. The walls are held in place with long bolts that go through the wood floor into the frame below. The walls have no direct contact with the chassis frame. That kind of design means the walls will move independently of the chassis frame. It has to squeak and groan.
True about the sidewalls sitting on the wooden sub floor, but Monaco brand lower end models(Diplomat, Knight, Endeavor, Santiam, Cheetah, all their gas coaches), Travel Supreme, have hung sidewalls with aluminum frames, some with aluminum skins and have aluminum and steel framed laminated sub-floors that also squeak and groan, so it's not just Newmar, even though they are unique with wooden sub floors.
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the older london aire like the one i am getting has the laminated steel or alum wall studs and rounded outside like an egg shell for more inlsulation...the roof also laminated..at least on the '97.and on test drive i listened for for noises and i didnt here any....jeff
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