Table top Weber grill

[shadrack]

I am wondering if I can use the tap that use to feed my Norcold (since changed to residential) refrigerator to run a table top Weber? I can find no place that tells me how many inches of water the grill requires OR the regulated pressure on the coach's on board tank. I think if the grill required the same or lesser pressure, it would be okay. If it requires more then I would have to run a separate line back and tap into the propane line before the regulator. Anybody out there have the answer? Thanks.

[Luv2go]

Most tabletop grills run off high pressure propane (that is after the tank and before the regulators). The Norcold and all other standard interior RV appliances (stove/oven, water heater) run off low pressure propane.

The Extend a Flow type kits (available from RV Upgrades, a sponsor of this site, and others) will do what you need to do.

Hope this helps!
Stewart

[shadrack]

I know that I have a regulator right at the propane tank on our coach for the stove, furnace, and refrigerator. And that the Weber has a regulator also. I am wondering if I can run the Weber regulator in series with the coach regulator? My thinking being that if the Weber runs at the same or lower pressure than the coach appliances it would be okay. But if the Weber runs at a higher pressure than the coach appliances, it would not. I'm just looking to whether I have to run a high pressure line back to the grill or just extend the previous gas line to the refrigerator about three feet and install a qiuck connect. Thanks again.

[FlyingDiver]

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Originally Posted by shadrack I know that I have a regulator right at the propane tank on our coach for the stove, furnace, and refrigerator. And that the Weber has a regulator also. I am wondering if I can run the Weber regulator in series with the coach regulator? My thinking being that if the Weber runs at the same or lower pressure than the coach appliances it would be okay. But if the Weber runs at a higher pressure than the coach appliances, it would not. I'm just looking to whether I have to run a high pressure line back to the grill or just extend the previous gas line to the refrigerator about three feet and install a qiuck connect. Thanks again.

No, it won't work. The regulator at the grill requires HIGH pressure to operate at all. Post built-in regulator is only about 1-2 PSI (above ambient). Not good enough.

You'll need a separate high pressure line, as Stewart said.

joe

[shadrack]

Thanks for the replies. I guess that I'll become Joe the Plummer and head for Home Depot or Lowes when we get to Florida next month and get situated at Fort Pierce. Happy trails.

[DonnaB]

When we had the coach built we had Newmar run a line from the propane tank over to the curb side so we could run our gas grill from it. We did have a heck of a time getting all the fittings to make the grill work as we intended.

Purchased the Weber Baby Q and removed the regulator from it. Tried Lowe's, HD & Ace as well as a couple of other hardware stores, but never found the right fitting without 5 or more adapter fittings in the middle. Went to a gas place...I think it was American Propane & Gas in north Oklahoma City. They were able to provide us with the fittings that work well. Plus they made a hose for us at the length we desired. Prices reasonable.

You can do what you are wanting, but may have to go to other places than the standard, think a little outside the box and be willing to persevere when everyone in the stores tells you it won't work.

[stearn]

I too bought an extend a flow fitting at my local propane dealer. It was very easy to install and cost was around $20.00. I did use it while on vacation, and it worked fine with my BabyQ. The propane dealer sells Weber grills and after asking, they sold me the fitting saying thats what I needed. I also had a 10' hose made up.

[Jim_L]

I have ran a hose off of the propane tank for many years. If the grill used the low pressure, I ran it after the regulator. Two years ago, I purchased the Weber Q and since that regulator is built into that type of grill, chose to run a high pressure line originating prior to the regulator on the coach and used the regulator attached to the grill.

Unfortunately, I am now on my third regulator. It appears that an oily substance is ruining the regulators and as such, plan to go back to the bottles. If you do a search on this forum, you will find a few discussions on this matter which indicates that I am not the only one using the Weber Q having the same issures. The oily substance is corrosive and ruins the regulator. I have discussed with Weber but was not offered an explanation from them.

My propane tank is on the drivers side and I ran a rubber line across the chassis to the other side. The rubber line originates with a quick release and after a shutoff valve and ends next to the steps with a quick release. The rubber line is left on the coach during travel. Apparently, in reading the discussion, since the rubber line is lower than the propane tank, the oil moves down the hose and when connected to the grill, eventually gets to the regulator.

There are also discussions indicating that perhaps my propane tank is polluted, but no other appliances show the same type of problem, so I have come to believe that the downward slope of the hose is the culprit. On my last trip, the third regulator clogged and I was without the grill...I do not plan to use the hose again.

[FlyingDiver]

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Originally Posted by Jim_L I have ran a hose off of the propane tank for many years. If the grill used the low pressure, I ran it after the regulator. Two years ago, I purchased the Weber Q and since that regulator is built into that type of grill, chose to run a high pressure line originating prior to the regulator on the coach and used the regulator attached to the grill. Unfortunately, I am now on my third regulator. It appears that an oily substance is ruining the regulators and as such, plan to go back to the bottles. If you do a search on this forum, you will find a few discussions on this matter which indicates that I am not the only one using the Weber Q having the same issures. The oily substance is corrosive and ruins the regulator. I have discussed with Weber but was not offered an explanation from them. My propane tank is on the drivers side and I ran a rubber line across the chassis to the other side. The rubber line originates with a quick release and after a shutoff valve and ends next to the steps with a quick release. The rubber line is left on the coach during travel. Apparently, in reading the discussion, since the rubber line is lower than the propane tank, the oil moves down the hose and when connected to the grill, eventually gets to the regulator. There are also discussions indicating that perhaps my propane tank is polluted, but no other appliances show the same type of problem, so I have come to believe that the downward slope of the hose is the culprit. On my last trip, the third regulator clogged and I was without the grill...I do not plan to use the hose again.

I don't think it's your tank. I wonder if it's the hoses?

I have the exact same problem, but with a Coleman Roadtrip Pro. I'm on the second regulator now, and it's starting to show the same symptoms. I think there's something in the propane, or something coming from the hose, that hose little regulators don't like. They're really designed for the 1lb bottles.

We've decided this grill is too big anyway, so we're going to switch to a Q soon. And I'll stock the small bottles until we find a way to connect to it post-regulator (low pressure). I don't need the big grill anymore since we're now also carrying around a Weber Smokey Mountain smoker.

joe

[RVDude]

There are 2 standard propane regulators. A "low" pressure (measured in inches of water column) and a "high" pressure (measured in PSI). The "high" pressure ones have a red top. This "high" pressure is NOT to be confused with tank pressure. "Tank" pressure in a throwwaway bottle, a 20 lbs BBQ grill tanks and your RV tank are all the same.

So, if your grill is a "low" pressure one (it is) and you can remove just the regulator on the grill (that is a maybe), then you can tap off the refer line and feed your grill directly. The Newmar regulator is a "low' pressure one.

BUT, why tap an already sealed line inside your sealed basement and risk a leak. You also limit your flexibility in using that handy line for other propane appliances. Instead, tap off the the tank line between the valve and the regulator with a valve and an LPG quick connect. This compartment is open. Have a 40-50ft propane hose made that has LPG quick connects and adapters for attaching to POL and throwaway fittings and then you can run anything w/o a worry. No leaks in your basement, run any applaince that has a POL or throwaway fitting (that's basically everything), and flexibilty to add splitters for more applainces. Just throw the hose underneath your rig and plug it in.

For specifics, see my posts here:
Propane lasts a LOOOOONG time!!

Some pics of what the posts above discuss in detail. USE ONLY LPG certified hardware!!!!

[shadrack]

Thanks very much Mr.RV Dude for the reply. And all the others. The pictures really paint the picture. Thanks again.

[a k]

RVDUDE.
My Essex came with a quick connect already plumbed in at the basement just in front of the entertainment door. You sure you don't have one? Open the door and look up at the frame rail. It even had the fitting ty rapped to it for the hose end just like the air on the front and back. It has a gate valve on it. It wasn't an option.

A K

[RVDude]

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Originally Posted by a k RVDUDE. My Essex came with a quick connect already plumbed in at the basement ... It wasn't an option.A K

My 2007 EX does not have that... Nor would that setup work for every appliance... I take it your 2006 EX Newmar supplied quick connect is tapped into the low-pressure (after the chassis tank regulator) line? Kudos for Newmar for installing that quick connect (which is itself internally valved) with a backup, second gate valve!!!!!! Especially in the closed off basement. You'll see that gate in my setup as well - even in the open propane compartment.

Given I use both high pressure appliances (like Campfire-In-A-Can, ice torches - the red top regulators) and low pressure appliances (like BBQ's, patio heaters, gas lights - the silver/unpainted top regulators) I wanted 1) the ability to run both types of appliances off the same feed line and 2) to never have to disassemble an appliance (remove its regulator) to feed it from an already low-pressure regulated feed. Hence, I tapped into the pre-regulator line at the chassis tank and made quick connect adapters for the POL and throw-away tank threads. This way I can just attach any appliance to my line(s) in the same manner as if I just had the portable tanks and even run high-pressure and low-pressure appliances at the same time using the octopus hose.

It's all good!

[a k]

Yep, that's it.