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Old 06-03-2018, 05:59 AM   #1
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Ventana VS Dutch Star VS Kountry Star

Looking at these in the 2004 to 2007 range. All closely priced, but what's the difference in the 3 models? Pecking order?

Dutch Star
https://valdosta.craigslist.org/rvs/...550514430.html

Kountry Star
https://www.rickbakersrvcenter.com/d...=xAllInventory

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https://www.rvt.com/Newmar-Ventana-3...086285-UX91059
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Old 06-03-2018, 07:44 AM   #2
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One biggy is the side radiator in the Dutch Star.
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The Ventana has some seriously mismatched paint on the frontend. It would be nice to know if it has been smacked or if they tried to repaint the rock chip damage. Regardless, I'd want the paint to match or deduct $3,000 or $4,000 from the price just for that alone.
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Line wise the Dutchy is the top of the three I think.

Got mine 2 months ago with 8500 miles on it. Basically new rig at used price.
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In those days the entry level was the ventana, next up was the kountry star, and the Dutch star the top of the three.i compared the ventana with the kountry star and while my kountry Star has every option available at the time, electric jacks the exception, I chose it based on floor plan. I bought from a dealers in stock. Mine also has the side radiator on a spartan chassis. About only difference between mine and a Dutch star is the front axel is rated 1000 pounds less than the Dutch so 100 gal of fuel as opposed to 150. Don’t know about the ventana. Mine has had side walls changed, left off the decals as they wrinkled and when I take it in for service everyone always thinks it’s a Dutch star. Dash is even basically the same for those years
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Vantena -> Kountry Star -> Dutch Star.
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One biggy is the side radiator in the Dutch Star.
I didn't even notice that. That's a fature I'd like to have.

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The Ventana has some seriously mismatched paint on the frontend. It would be nice to know if it has been smacked or if they tried to repaint the rock chip damage. Regardless, I'd want the paint to match or deduct $3,000 or $4,000 from the price just for that alone.
I did notice that. I wasn't sure if it was faded or what.

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Line wise the Dutchy is the top of the three I think.

Got mine 2 months ago with 8500 miles on it. Basically new rig at used price.
Thanks. Congrats on your new rig. That's low miles for sure.

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In those days the entry level was the ventana, next up was the kountry star, and the Dutch star the top of the three.i compared the ventana with the kountry star and while my kountry Star has every option available at the time, electric jacks the exception, I chose it based on floor plan. I bought from a dealers in stock. Mine also has the side radiator on a spartan chassis. About only difference between mine and a Dutch star is the front axel is rated 1000 pounds less than the Dutch so 100 gal of fuel as opposed to 150. Donít know about the ventana. Mine has had side walls changed, left off the decals as they wrinkled and when I take it in for service everyone always thinks itís a Dutch star. Dash is even basically the same for those years
So what's your cargo capacity? I prefer the look of that Kountry Star, but some of it's cargo doors are delaminated. I have not seen the other two in person though.

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I saw that kountry star awhile back and was interested in it as well. Side rad of the ds keeps me looking at them though
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I saw that kountry star awhile back and was interested in it as well. Side rad of the ds keeps me looking at them though
First time serpentine belt replacement today. Aside from removing the A/C belt, the serp belt took about 10 minutes. Very easy when there's no radiator in the way.
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In those days the entry level was the ventana, next up was the kountry star, and the Dutch star the top of the three.i compared the ventana with the kountry star and while my kountry Star has every option available at the time, electric jacks the exception, I chose it based on floor plan. I bought from a dealers in stock. Mine also has the side radiator on a spartan chassis. About only difference between mine and a Dutch star is the front axel is rated 1000 pounds less than the Dutch so 100 gal of fuel as opposed to 150. Donít know about the ventana. Mine has had side walls changed, left off the decals as they wrinkled and when I take it in for service everyone always thinks itís a Dutch star. Dash is even basically the same for those years


Me too on the KStar. Every option as Dutch Star, not as glitzy on the interior, but we have done lots of upgrades on the interior ourselves. Sleep Number bed, taller china toilet, residential shower doors, tiled back splash, wood crown molding, hard wood floor thru out, including slides.
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The Dutch Star is the superior coach. The side radiator makes doing things on the engine easier and cheaper.
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Same as DGBPokes, our 3910 has every option including the 400 Cummins engine. Side radiator as I’ve had rear ones but never again.Inside trim and furniture of the Dutch star a little more finished, but our upholstery is holding up better than a friends 2008 Dstar. Think the front axel is rated at 10,000 lbs, but not sure. If I was out of hospital a little longer I’d go check and see but instead will remain “lazy”. I remember spartan telling me Newmar went cheap and put 1000 lb less rated axel than the DStar
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One biggy is the side radiator in the Dutch Star.
Doesn't anyone care about the size of the engine? There's more to diesels than just horsepower. Size does matter! The Ventanna is running a Cat C7; I assume the DS has a larger engine probably with a compression brake. Compression brakes are significantly better than exhaust brakes but are only found in larger engines.
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I saw that kountry star awhile back and was interested in it as well. Side rad of the ds keeps me looking at them though


08 Kountry Star has side rad, 400 Cummins, all the same trim as DS, with some exceptions. Vinyl floors wallboard panels etc. DS is best if the prices are close enough, but donít discount KS.
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