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Old 04-09-2014, 12:22 AM   #1
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Water leaks into your storage bays 2005

This may have been covered before, but I must warn my fellow Newmar owners. I have an '05 KS that had a leak into the storage bays. After 2 trips to Newmar and much $$$ spent, it was determined that Newmar stopped putting wheel liners on the back duals during that period in 2005, and water migrated onto the chassis frame and into the storage compartments. I have now seen this in 4 different coaches of that vintage. Look at the storage bays, especially the bay in front of the duals [TV or peg-board bay]. Look on the bottom carpet for evidence of water staining, and if you see even a little, you got a problem. It only happened while driving in rain, not parked in rain. I think this is a common problem that Newmar is hiding. As I said before, I had it and now I have seen it in other coaches of that vintage. They have repaired it [after 2 trips to Newmar]and replaced the damaged floor, and added wheel liners, and recaulked around the chassis beams, but it was poor construction from the beginning. Look at your beams for evidence of rust / water, and check after driving in the rain. I have seen it on Kountry Stars and Dutch Stars of the 2005 era. Gary KD, look closely at your coach, and Thanks for all your advice.
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:56 AM   #2
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Exclamation Spray rubber......

Had the same frame rail leak, over time and with the condition of our highways, Newmars seal leaked ,......solved the leak though.....
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Thanks for the update. I have a 2005 DS and will check this out. Appreciate your post.
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Thanks Sleepy will add your thread to QT's # 3, this has come up before but could not find in search engine, will add in Leaks issues.
It will now in search and QT's # 3.
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Is this unique to the KS or does it include other models? Gas, diesel or both? Can you buy the wheel liners to correct this? If you were looking to buy a 2005 KS, would this be a show stopper?

Sorry for all the questions but I am preparing to buy a 2005 KS gas so this obviously caught my eye.
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I think it was a problem for some of the coach's of that time look in compartments and chassis framing for rust or stains and if coach was traveled in winter there will be rust unless previous owner sprayed undercoat to resist salts and road grime.
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Just to let everyone know our old 2008 didn't have wheel wells in it and we had water coming in everywhere we took it back to Newmar and they installed the wheel wells.
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I think it was a problem for some of the coach's of that time look in compartments and chassis framing for rust or stains and if coach was traveled in winter there will be rust unless previous owner sprayed undercoat to resist salts and road grime.
Current owner doesn't use it in the winter, he stores it and flies to his winter home in AZ. So salt shouldn't be an issue.

What are the compartment floors made of, are they wood or easily replaceable?
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I would bet there are many Newmars that have this issue simply because it is so hard to detect. It is typically in the fresh / gray / black tank bay in front of the duals. I first noticed a discoloration on the flooring carpet in that bay. After removing my pegboard [in some models it will be a TV], it was very wet and I am sure mold had set in. Before I purchased a Newmar [ any model], I would check all bays for water invasion from any source, and look at the chassis beams for signs of rust. It is a dirty little secret Newmar knows about, but they are not telling you!
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Chassis rails, under framing will have rust on any motor home in time if you want to keep it looking like new you can spray undercoating every year if you have the time or stay in sunny dry climates.
You will have to clean off what rust it collected just sitting around first though.
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I would bet there are many Newmars that have this issue simply because it is so hard to detect. It is typically in the fresh / gray / black tank bay in front of the duals. I first noticed a discoloration on the flooring carpet in that bay. After removing my pegboard [in some models it will be a TV], it was very wet and I am sure mold had set in. Before I purchased a Newmar [ any model], I would check all bays for water invasion from any source, and look at the chassis beams for signs of rust. It is a dirty little secret Newmar knows about, but they are not telling you!
Is yours a diesel or gas? I have added this along with a few other things to my inspection list when I check the unit out. Any photos would be helpful as well if you have them as this is my first RV purchase so definitely on a learning curve.
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This problem has been known for some time and discussed here on iRV2. I did what palehorse89 posted. Flex Seal works great. Solved the problem with a minimum of muss and fuss.
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I think it was a problem for some of the coach's of that time look in compartments and chassis framing for rust or stains and if coach was traveled in winter there will be rust unless previous owner sprayed undercoat to resist salts and road grime.
We are at a B&B and our coach is supposed to be finished tomorrow with the basement repairs hub about in this thread. They installed new floors, wall, and carpet. They sealed all the seams and undercoated the area around the wheels. I think ours leaked from day one. The way they fixed it now, it should easily be good for the life of the coach. I'm real happy with the repairs.
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What actually are the wheel wells that you are talking about, can someone send a picture of where the water is coming in at because I have the same issue with my 2014 Ventana.
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