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Old 07-24-2018, 05:06 PM   #1
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Weak headlights? What upgrades have you done?

There's no two ways about it, the headlights on my '17 Dutch Star aren't great. To make matters worse, it honestly seems like it is dimmer when I hit the high beams.

What have you done to upgrade your lighting? On my '11 Silverado I swapped the low beams to HIDs and put LED bulbs in the Foglights and it made a huge difference.

I'm just hesitant to change anything that could later be "blamed" for wiring or electrical issues on the coach (I have a 7 year warranty).

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Old 07-24-2018, 05:18 PM   #2
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Could it be your eye sight is weak and you should not be driving at night?

There was recently a discussion on this.

Bottom line is you are driving a MH not a race car.
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Old 07-24-2018, 05:26 PM   #3
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Sorry, this post will be of no help to you... but I've never seen my RV's headlights in action because we never drive in the dark. I guess you do. I know I've seen other folks talk about getting better bulbs in their headlights, but I'm sorry I can't point you to them.

I've turned my headlights on in tunnels. And in bad weather - during the day - but we are always parked by 4 pm... 5 at the latest.
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Could it be your eye sight is weak and you should not be driving at night?

There was recently a discussion on this.

Bottom line is you are driving a MH not a race car.
When did I say I was trying to do 90 up a dark canyon road? I'm talking about doing the speed limit down the highway. FWIW I'm 36, not that you can't have eye problems at 36... but I've always had great eyesight.

I also drive lots of other vehicles. Even the '67 Camaro I recently sold had better night lighting with factory style incandescent headlights (it had NOT been converted over to HID or LED).

I did HIDs and LEDs on my truck, as I mentioned, but the lighting was fully adequate stock. I wanted to update the look of the lighting, but I never found the stock headlights to be an issue. We also have a '03 Jeep Grand Cherokee with regular old incandescent lights that I have no issues with. Our '16 JGC and '15 BMW are obviously better than the rest, and I'd love that level of lighting, but they are NOT what I'm comparing to with the coach.

Sure, I think a coach at this price should have HID/LEDs stock, but that's a whole other discussion for another time. What I'm seeing is the stock lighting is way weaker than a 50 year old car (which, while LS-swapped had the factory body harness in it still).



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I have the same problem, not sure why we are insulting tjz06
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I have the same problem, not sure why we are insulting tjz06
Momma said it's because I'm special!

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Maybe... because a majority of RVers prefer to be parked by dark the manufacturers don't see a need for better headlights.

I don't know if any of that is true, I'm just supposing, but anecdotally the folks I speak to at RV Parks are doing their darnedest to arrive before dark.

Not that there is anything wrong with driving into the night. I'm not insinuating that. Just answering the OP's question about why such an expensive vehicle would have such antiquated headlights.
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Old 07-24-2018, 05:36 PM   #8
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headlights sourced from auto industry

You may try to determine if the DS lights are sourced from an automobile, chances are good that they are. If so, look to the aftermarket for a projector HID kit. That should solve your issue.
My plan is to never drive at night but have found myself on a dark country road after dark already due to plans changing unexpectedly. I wished I had a HID upgrade that night.http://www.irv2.com/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif
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There is a post here that I couldn’t readily come up with.
It’s done by a driver of a New Aire that upgraded his headlights.
I recall it was very complete.

Found it the thread is called “ New Headlamps “
Search it
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Maybe... because a majority of RVers prefer to be parked by dark the manufacturers don't see a need for better headlights.

I don't know if any of that is true, I'm just supposing, but anecdotally the folks I speak to at RV Parks are doing their darnedest to arrive before dark.

Not that there is anything wrong with driving into the night. I'm not insinuating that. Just answering the OP's question about why such an expensive vehicle would have such antiquated headlights.
IDK, we must RV with different crowds. Tons of my RV'in friends end up driving through the night. We're not retired, so we do lots of "long weekend" trips. As such, I'll often work Thurs, then leave later in the evening Thurs which can mean driving at night. I go to Glamis a lot, which is a 10-12hr drive from where I'm at. I'm in the Bay Area, and the drive takes me through the greater LA area too. I don't know about you, but I do NOT want to be driving my RV and stacker through either the Bay Area or LA during any peak traffic time. I try to leave here around 8 PM and pass through LA sometime in the early morning hours, getting to G around sunrise.

When I'm going into a typical RV park I do like to get in during daylight, so I can see trees I need to dodge and such. But if I'm going into a big open camping (no assigned spots) place like Glamis or just stopping in a casino parking lot I'd rather go when there's no traffic.

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You may try to determine if the DS lights are sourced from an automobile, chances are good that they are. If so, look to the aftermarket for a projector HID kit. That should solve your issue.
My plan is to never drive at night but have found myself on a dark country road after dark already due to plans changing unexpectedly. I wished I had a HID upgrade that night.http://www.irv2.com/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif
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That's a good call on trying to determine if they're car headlights. I know my '09 Southwind had first-gen Lexus RX headlights and I used an HID kit for those. Still, I'd rather not mess with any wiring (though, a true plug 'n play HID kit would mean no splicing wiring). I don't want to get blamed for any issues down the road. I've been super unhappy with how Newmar has handled my warranty work in the past, and I think they'll blame me if I change ANYTHING.

I'll probably just get the bulb part numbers and try LED bulbs that pop right in, but even w/ the advances in LEDs, I still think HID retrofit kits throw a better light pattern (further) than HIDs.

Allllll of that said, should a 2017 RV with a MSRP over $400k really have worse lighting than a '67 Camaro with stock lights?
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I upgraded both my headlights and taillights to LED. Nearly turned night into day in the process. The OEM headlights were woefully inadequate for the coach IMO. I could outrun the headlights without exceeding 45 mph.
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Head lights can be improved but as you find out in this link with all the latest light information for Newmars they originally came from car and truck MFG's to use on your large MH.
The link came from this sticky top of forum for Newmar owners.
You can spend money for many upgrades for your coach as many of us have done over the years we have owned them, sometimes the money spent is questionable.

Some other brand owners do have access to the Newmar links, I have provided for Newmar owners, its the option of a Newmar owner to use them, not to be questioned by SOB owner, if you have no advise to help with someones question, its best to not post your remarks.
Your welcome on the Newmar forum for constructive advise.

Most of my driving was at night because of traffic going to places we enjoyed and time limits for traveling as the OP has posted, after retirement I still traveled at night for a less demanding drive from traffic situations, enjoyed the road with the truckers.
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TJ, here is a thread Neal c started a while back when he had the same head light problem as you. So you can read through it, might help ya out with what he did......
Brighter headlights
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if you have no advise to help with someones question, its best to not post your remarks.
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Couldn't agree more , Thanks
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