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What are these Coax outlets for?
08-09-2011, 08:12 AM
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Hi All,
Can anyone tell me what the 3 coax outlets in the upper cabinet behind the passenger seat are for?
They are labeled SAT OUT, SAT IN, and CABLE. Right now there is a jumper between CABLE and SAT IN. They look factory made but the wiring schematic in the manual does not show them.
Thanks,
Greg
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08-09-2011, 09:08 AM
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If you have a dish mounted on your roof those plugs would go to your Dish or Direct TV Box (one side to dish, one side to TV Distribution panel)) If you have a motorized dish there should also be one or two switches + LED for controlling the dish.
I have no idea why someone ran a coax from Sat to Cable.
On our coach the cable (Park Cable) input is in the electrical bay. it runs directly to the Distribution panel.
Since our coach came with a motorized dish I can't say if Newmar pre-wires for that option.
Newmar Factory Support can give you a lot of info. 574-773-7791, have your serial number ready.
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08-09-2011, 09:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gregd
Can anyone tell me what the 3 coax outlets in the upper cabinet behind the passenger seat are for?
They are labeled SAT OUT, SAT IN, and CABLE. Right now there is a jumper between CABLE and SAT IN. They look factory made but the wiring schematic in the manual does not show them.
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I can't really answer you question, but can tell you mine is the same as what you describe.
The connections are, of course, where one ties into the antenna or satellite dish and satellite receiver. I understand the concept but haven't sat down to figure just what to connect when and where. If I remember correctly, the jumper connects the interior distribution box to the antenna or the dish. But without looking at the connection plates and their markings, I can't think it out....
BTW, mine is jumpered as yours is since I just use the ant, not the sat dish.
It would be helpful to have a schematic of the wiring so we wouldn't have to figure it out each time that we made a change, but I haven't seen one in my manuals. I will probably have to draw on if and when I ever figure it out.
Norm, Norm...Norm4015? ...RING, RING
(Norm is the guru of the 2000 DS).
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08-09-2011, 10:05 AM
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Gregd,
Our '01 DSDP was factory prewired to enable the addition of sat.
I used it to view sat from a portable dish, when using the dish I would use the cable port in the electrical compartment a the use a combination of those cables to run the signal to the receiver and distribution panel.
Don't recall the particular setup right now.
Al Sawyer
'05 MADP
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08-09-2011, 03:23 PM
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Satellite In and Satellite Out are simple. The satellite receiver sits in that cabinet and a roof mounted dish goes to Satellite In which connects to the input on the receiver and the output of the receiver connects to Satellite Out which goes to the switch box in the cabinet beside the TV.
Now, I've been trying to get my old brain working about the Cable cable. I owned and fulltimed in a 2000 DSDP 5 1/2 years and I helped two friends with 2000 DSPD's set up their entertainment stuff. From what I remember if you connect a portable satellite dish to the electric bay coax connection you connect Cable to the satellite receiver input. Hope my memory is correct.
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08-09-2011, 03:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gregd
Hi All,
Can anyone tell me what the 3 coax outlets in the upper cabinet behind the passenger seat are for?
They are labeled SAT OUT, SAT IN, and CABLE. Right now there is a jumper between CABLE and SAT IN. They look factory made but the wiring schematic in the manual does not show them.
Thanks,
Greg
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Pretty much what others have said:
Sat in = input from the satellite dish
Sat out = output from the satellite receiver to the switch box
Not sure about the jumper unless you don't have a roof mounted dish and they routed the outside connection through to the selector box.
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08-09-2011, 10:51 PM
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Thanks for the info everyone.
Well... I tried connecting my sat dish to the Cable-in jack in the electical bay. No dice.
I even tried connecting the sat receiver directly to the Cable jack in the cabinet above the passenger seat and still no signal.
Others have successfully used the outside cable jack to feed their portable satelites into their coach. Anything else I should try?
There sure is alot to learn on these big coaches.
Greg
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08-10-2011, 05:11 AM
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Assuming you don't have a roof mounted dish, see if you have a cable/tv jack in the outside bay where your power hookups are. If so, hook up a portable sat dish to the cable jack. In the upper cabinet above the passenger seat hook your sat box to the cable in jack then hook the sat box up out to the sat out jack and see if you get anything. If you have a a/v distribution box make sure it is in the sat position as well.
After further review, it seems as if you have already tried this, this should work, if you have a meter just make sure your dish is pointed correctly.
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08-10-2011, 08:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyman134
Assuming you don't have a roof mounted dish, see if you have a cable/tv jack in the outside bay where your power hookups are. If so, hook up a portable sat dish to the cable jack. In the upper cabinet above the passenger seat hook your sat box to the cable in jack then hook the sat box up out to the sat out jack and see if you get anything. If you have a a/v distribution box make sure it is in the sat position as well.
After further review, it seems as if you have already tried this, this should work, if you have a meter just make sure your dish is pointed correctly.
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Ya, I tried bypassing the AV dist box by connecting directly to the cable jack in the upper pass side cabinet. The sat signal strength is good (94%) when the receiver is connected directly to the sat so I know the sat is aimed correctly.
Does anyone know if there are there any other components (splitters, amplifiers, etc.) on the coax that runs between the electrical bay and the upper cabinet behind the pass seat? The factory wiring diagram leaves much to be desired.
Greg
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08-10-2011, 12:36 PM
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My coach has the same set up ; I assumed, that the wiring at that point, pass side , was a change up as in the other owners records it showed a shop charge, for an up graded roof dish install and wiring for 2 recievers. On my coach if I can't use the roof dish for reception , I can run my portable dish coax supply through the coach hook up , but I have to disconnect the Cable input at the selector box and hook it to the reciever. I an considering an dual A/B selector switch set up so I don't have to re-do the coax routing every time.
My coach has a switch for booster power, in with the slide controls. I havent removed that panel to see if it's been by-passed. As sat. signal won't come through a booster. Haven't used the antenna, in the time I've owned the coach, so I can't tell if there is any thing in the system.
Have you tried checking the resistance in the cable , power bay to selector box.
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08-10-2011, 04:38 PM
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Now, that is how I just might make a motor home.
In linier fashion
Sat-in: If you put a satellite receiver in the coach and use a Tripod mount or other ground mount dish (Which by the way is the best way to do it even if you have a roof mount) this is where you hook the lead from the dish,, the other end of this lead will be somwhere near the television likely in a cabinet.. May even be labeled. May be a jack or loose cable end.
There will be a 2nd cable next to it.. this is the SAT out, hooks to the TV-OUT jack on the sat receiver.
The jumper connects the Sat out to the cable in.
Now, somewhere in the RV is a switch, Very likely (This is a guess) it will be a wall plate, this plate will have a 12 volt outlet, an antenna connection, a switch (Button or slider) and light.
Switch (And thus light) off, you have selected cable for the televisions.
or, if you have it hooked as it is, Satellite.
Switch on is over the air rooftop antenna.
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08-11-2011, 08:41 AM
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Greg, I don't know if you got your problem solved, I'm not sure how your set up is but if you have a a/v distribution panel and have a "cable in" hooked up to the back of the a/v distribution panel this could be the cable from the cable in jack in the power bay, have you tried to extend this wire directly to the sat box?
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08-11-2011, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip426
My coach has a switch for booster power, in with the slide controls. I havent removed that panel to see if it's been by-passed. As sat. signal won't come through a booster. Haven't used the antenna, in the time I've owned the coach, so I can't tell if there is any thing in the system.
Have you tried checking the resistance in the cable , power bay to selector box.
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Skip426,
I have a booster switch in the front upper cabinet as well. I assume that the booster would only be attached to the lead coming from the roof antenna (labeled "ROOF ANTENNA" and found behind the AV box) and not be on the same coax that comes in the from the "CABLE-IN" jack located in the basement electrical bay.
I will pull the switch panel in the front panel to investigate further but I wonder why they would apply boost to the coax cable coming from the basement electrical bay.
Thx,
Greg
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08-11-2011, 10:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyman134
Greg, I don't know if you got your problem solved, I'm not sure how your set up is but if you have a a/v distribution panel and have a "cable in" hooked up to the back of the a/v distribution panel this could be the cable from the cable in jack in the power bay, have you tried to extend this wire directly to the sat box?
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Harleyman,
I tried that first with no success. I toned out the coax from the basement electrical bay to the upper cab behind the pass seat so I know I have connectiivty between those two points.
I am going to investigate the booster that Skip mentioned above and see if that is on this same coax circuit as well. If it is on the same coax circuit, then that may be causing the problem for my sat signal.
Thx,
Greg
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