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05-07-2018, 07:27 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Florida
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At the Freightliner class Mike said that you need to be proactive and downshift early to keep the rpm’s up.
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2014 Newmar Dutch Star - All Electric - 450 ISL
2018 Wrangler on Blue OX with Air Force 1
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05-07-2018, 08:53 PM
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PanJH
You need to watch the water and tranny temps-- lugging at too low RPM will raise them and could be the start of trouble. Knock it down an gear or 2 and get it in the sweet spot.
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And will drive your EGT up to the sky high limit. Bad for turbo.
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Barry & Cindy
2008 Dutch Star 4304, Cider color
Cummins ISL 425, 2013 Passat TDI Toad
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05-07-2018, 09:03 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Could be anywhere
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I used to take the 154 as a short cut when I went to Cal Poly SLO about 100 years ago. I passed all the old farts with their rigs but usually got stuck behind the one old goat who had to win at the top right before it turned to one lane. And then he went 45 until it opened up again.
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2018 Newmar Dutch Star 4369 K2; 2021 Jeep Gladiator Mojave
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05-07-2018, 09:17 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Entegra Owners Club
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Location: AZ
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The 154 has always been my choice, motorcycle, car and RV, saves about 20 minutes going north. Technically I think it’s restricted to 40 feet and under.
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Newmar 2018 Dutch Star 4369 SP
Newmar 2023 Dutch Star 4369 FL
Entegra 2025 Cornerstone 45D on order
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05-08-2018, 05:34 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 604
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBelanger
I plead guilty to not manually operating my transmission. I just keep the pedal to the metal or the cruise control on, and I pass tractor trailers going up hills. I figure everything must be working alright. Doesn’t the automatic transmission have all this stuff programmed properly?
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Driving like this in hilly or mountain terrain will cause your transmission to eventually overheat, not to mention your rear end. I would suggest if you had a Pyrometer gauge, your exhaust gas temps would be way up in the red and you'll be going through fuel like crazy!! Yes, the transmission and the computer are programmed to downshift etc, but there is such a thing as being easy on the equipment IMO.
If you trade your coach in every 4-5 years (like a lot of people on this site seem to do) then by all means, drive it hard! lol If you plan to keep it for the long haul, then going easy, backing off a little and downshifting is your best bet for the equipment.
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SOLD: 2005 Winnebago Journey 39K, 350HP C-7 Cat
Toad: Flat deck car trailer hauling a 1932 ford tudor sedan
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05-08-2018, 07:26 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Benton Harbor, Michigan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deucenut
Driving like this in hilly or mountain terrain will cause your transmission to eventually overheat, not to mention your rear end. I would suggest if you had a Pyrometer gauge, your exhaust gas temps would be way up in the red and you'll be going through fuel like crazy!! Yes, the transmission and the computer are programmed to downshift etc, but there is such a thing as being easy on the equipment IMO.
If you trade your coach in every 4-5 years (like a lot of people on this site seem to do) then by all means, drive it hard! lol If you plan to keep it for the long haul, then going easy, backing off a little and downshifting is your best bet for the equipment.
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How is the rear end temperature going to be affected by engine RPM or what gear the transmission is running in? The drive shaft will be turning the same speed regardless what gear your in or the RPM.
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05-08-2018, 07:53 PM
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Location: Clearwater, Fl
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Driving through Montana today and showing DW, who was driving how to down shift manually. She loved blowing by the 18 wheelers.
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05-08-2018, 07:57 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Location: Rigby, Idaho
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Horsepower is not the issue. The issue is this guy does not know how to drive. Nice to know he's out there -- somewhere -- with 40,000 pounds of mayhem.
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2006 Monaco Safari Cheetah 40PMT
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05-08-2018, 08:12 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotten-Red
How is the rear end temperature going to be affected by engine RPM or what gear the transmission is running in? The drive shaft will be turning the same speed regardless what gear your in or the RPM.
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Lots of torque can heat up a rear end.
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SOLD: 2005 Winnebago Journey 39K, 350HP C-7 Cat
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05-08-2018, 08:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyMac
Horsepower is not the issue. The issue is this guy does not know how to drive. Nice to know he's out there -- somewhere -- with 40,000 pounds of mayhem.
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Who you talking about?
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05-08-2018, 08:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Home-Tx Hill Country
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Allison actually recommends being proactive by downshifting going up (and down) grades versus letting the automatic "take over".
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2016 Dutch Star 4369
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05-08-2018, 08:52 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
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Location: Rigby, Idaho
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotten-Red
Who you talking about?
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The boy with a 600hp engine but not enough skills to know how and when to downshift. I think I had that figured out at age 16.
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2006 Monaco Safari Cheetah 40PMT
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05-08-2018, 08:58 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDogSolo
Allison actually recommends being proactive by downshifting going up (and down) grades versus letting the automatic "take over".
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I've never seen that. Can you tell me where you found this and what trannys it applies to? My Allison is pretty good at selecting the proper gear, so I let her do it. Sometimes she up shifts, only to lose speed and have to downshift. I'll take over because she can't see out the front window and doesn't know what's coming. I'll down shift manually, and pick a speed that is comfortable for Allison and her Cat, till we clear the grade. But usually, she does a pretty good job by herself.
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2006 Monaco Safari Cheetah 40PMT
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05-08-2018, 10:38 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
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Location: British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyMac
I've never seen that. Can you tell me where you found this and what trannys it applies to? My Allison is pretty good at selecting the proper gear, so I let her do it. Sometimes she up shifts, only to lose speed and have to downshift. I'll take over because she can't see out the front window and doesn't know what's coming. I'll down shift manually, and pick a speed that is comfortable for Allison and her Cat, till we clear the grade. But usually, she does a pretty good job by herself.
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My Cummins manual specifically says to up/downshift to maintain optimal rpms
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