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08-12-2017, 02:09 PM
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Motorhomes Manufacturers, Used Motorhomes Values, Motorhomes Prices & Specs | NADAguides
Probably around low retail is the best price if you are buying through a dealer. A private party sale could be better than low retail. If using this NADA guide, remember not to adjust the price for coach mileage (diesel MH's) and options listed. The options listed are generic options, many of which are in the base of quality diesel pushers. I paid slightly higher than low retail with brand new tires.
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08-12-2017, 02:10 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Dutch Star and Ventana used dealer pricing
Generally how negotiable are dealers asking price for used Dutch Stars and Ventanas? Will be looking for 6-8 year old rigs
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08-12-2017, 02:15 PM
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Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Originally Posted by newbie 2021
Generally how negotiable are dealers asking price for used Dutch Stars and Ventanas? Will be looking for 6-8 year old rigs
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Probably not very much, they know if you don't buy it they'll sell it to someone else. You can ask, but don't expect to get much off the asking price.
Our '02 DSDP NADA was 60,000, dealer gave us 80,000 trade and they didn't even keep it to sell, or if they did it never made it to their website.
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08-13-2017, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by newbie 2021
I'm retiring in 3 1/2 years selling s&b and planning on go full time. I've searched RVTrader and some other rv dealer sites. Are their any good places to search. My budget is about 150k so I guess I would looking at 6-8 year old coaches at time of retirement.
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You have years to study the markets and the motorhome inner/outer workings, let me propose a different idea.
Look for a much cheaper Newmar, 2000 model year or above. Get it thoroughly inspected and line up your local RV contractors, get them to estimate the costs and make a list of everything you want to replace or improve. Go through the effort of having to fix a bunch of stuff all the while looking over the shoulders of your contractors as they school you.
I won't give you the exact numbers but I am "in" at under $30,000, ready to roll.
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08-13-2017, 09:07 PM
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Don't be afraid of a 40 footer. If you are going to spend a lot of time in a coach - you will not regret it. I have had both - driving is as easy as 35 footer, ride is better, storage is better, livability is better. I repeat - if you are actually going to spend much time in the coach - get larger! Test drive both - with camera's and mirrors it really isn't a driving issue. I just went thru parking lots at grocery stores with islands everywhere several times the past week in a 40 footer towing a car behind - it is NOT an issue! Most people who are afraid because of size - have never lived in a coach or driven one!
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08-14-2017, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
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I found our coach on RVTrader. I looked several times a week for nearly 6 months to find it. I procrastinate on two coaches before pulling the trigger on this on. Bad idea. A good coach will go fast. Don't be shocked by the posted prices. People and dealers are willing to accept less than asking $. I used NADA rates for low retail and dealt from there. Good luck and be patient
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11-01-2017, 12:18 PM
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do a spread sheet
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Originally Posted by newbie 2021
I'm retiring in 3 1/2 years selling s&b and planning on go full time. I've searched RVTrader and some other rv dealer sites. Are their any good places to search. My budget is about 150k so I guess I would looking at 6-8 year old coaches at time of retirement.
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Hello. Wife and I hope to start Full Timing Aug2018. A year or so ago, I set a search with notification on RVT/RVs4sale and so receive emails from those services when an RV with my search parameters shows up. Started a spread sheet with headings: Date checked. (I check monthly to see if unit is still for sale, you don't always get notification from RVT/RVs4sale that a unit has sold) Year Make Model Mileage city state dealer (by owner or particular dealer, sort by this later on to track dealer behavior as to initial price. Do they start high or at a reasonable price) date posted... I'll stop here but I do believe with 3 1/2 years until purchase ,tracking this way would give you a wealth of info and help pass the time. Please feel free to contact me directly if you have additional questions.
Mike
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11-01-2017, 01:27 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Originally Posted by JFXG
"Too big" only lasts for a month or so; "too small" lasts forever.
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Amen to that! A big Amen, not a little one!
TJ
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11-01-2017, 04:34 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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Originally Posted by mrome54369
Hello. Wife and I hope to start Full Timing Aug2018. A year or so ago, I set a search with notification on RVT/RVs4sale and so receive emails from those services when an RV with my search parameters shows up. Started a spread sheet with headings: Date checked. (I check monthly to see if unit is still for sale, you don't always get notification from RVT/RVs4sale that a unit has sold) Year Make Model Mileage city state dealer (by owner or particular dealer, sort by this later on to track dealer behavior as to initial price. Do they start high or at a reasonable price) date posted... I'll stop here but I do believe with 3 1/2 years until purchase ,tracking this way would give you a wealth of info and help pass the time. Please feel free to contact me directly if you have additional questions.
Mike
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WOW!!! Now that's being organized! Way to go.
I simply called my local dealer( we have only 3 that sell diesel pushers) and spoke to the salesman that sold us our then current unit. Told him what I wanted and features etc. Before our current unit even came on the lot, he sold the previous owner a new London Aire. So he knew what was coming in on trade. He called me, told me about it and said as soon as it came into the dealer I could see it. I was the first one to look at it(hadn't even been PDI'd yet and it was filthy from the trek over the mountains). Put down a deposit, hammered out a deal on our trade and took it home a few weeks later. The salesman told me the other 3 saleman all had 3-4 people that wanted it, including him. I believe him since 2 sales people showed our unit after I put down the deposit but was just going over the unit. Both customers said they wanted it if I backed out of the deal. So the good ones do go quick. And even in that situation, I feel I got a fair deal for both the dealer and myself. I didn't steal it, but I didn't overpay either.
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11-01-2017, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ronspradley
On line I would recommend PPL.com, RVTRADER.com, RVT.com
best of luck
ronspradley
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I agree with the above. PPL seems to have their coaches reasonably priced.
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11-01-2017, 06:53 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
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Welcome to the forum and irv2.
Here is a link to get you around irv2.
Here is a link for all tsb's for any coach, brochures, owners guides, recalls and other info.
Here is a link to our Classifieds where some Newmars are present.
All the links below in my signature will have info for what ever Newmar you get.
Good luck in your hunt.
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11-05-2017, 08:20 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Location: Marblehead, OH
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'discount' to expect off new MSRP ??
Is there an average discount off new Newmar DP MSRP I should expect will be accepted? Have heard 28-30% ???
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