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Old 03-13-2011, 01:26 AM   #1
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07 APEX Vanity Slide won't go out/in

Last evening we stopped at 7-Feathers casino to park overnight, and we tried to deploy the vanity slide to no avail. The HWH pump starts, and it makes noise like it wants to go out, but nothing happens. This morning, tried it again, nada, and the bedroom slide would not come in. I checked the level again, and was a little down in the rear, so raised the back and the bedroom slide retracted.

We came home and leveled the coach in the driveway and the bedroom slide works fine, but the vanity slide again refused to budge. I can hear it try to move, so I went back and tried to shake it some, nothing. I have not looked into it much further since we needed to get the coach back to storage, but once the weather breaks I will work on it so I looking for some ideas to try. The HWH reservoir is full, and all the other stuff works fine.
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Old 03-13-2011, 07:19 AM   #2
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Does the slide operate on electricity? If so, check your fuses.
My living room slide is hydraulic and I had the same problem as you. Turned out to be a bad fuse.
The bedroom slide on ours is electrically operated and the coach has to be on shore power to function.
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Old 03-13-2011, 09:01 AM   #3
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If the problem is isolated to only one slide or intermittent to another, it could be a loose wiring connection to the effected slide[s]. Ref earlier posts, the connections to the control panel behind the dash slideout draw [or where ever the control panel is in an 07] is a good place to start. "Normally," the bedroom slides arent impacted by coach/jack leveling. If not a loose wire connection then the solenoids [extend or retract] for the vanity may be bad.....If stuck open, manually releasing the extend solenoid will allow the fluid to escape that side of the cylinders.
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:40 PM   #4
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Old RV'r -- a couple thoughts, FWIW, you've probably checked them but I'll throw it out anyway--

Have you checked to make sure nothing fell down behind the slide and is blocking it?

Are you sure you'd don't have a hydraulic leak on the way to that slide?

Did you try opening the solenoid to that slide and pushing it out a little and back in manually? Perhaps you're having a solenoid problem.
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OF & All - No, I have not checked to see if anything has fallen behind it, but we don't keep anything near it which could have, but today as I was waking up, that thought came to mind as well so good minds think alike.

The slide wants to go out, I can hear pressure trying to build in the system, the HWH pump starts, so it's trying to work. The solenoid might be holding it back, will have to have another person, since the control for those slides is between the smartbeds in the basement on our model. My friend will be home in a week or so and hopefully the weather will improve since now it's in the 40's, windy and raining sideways. So I will update this thread once I can get over to it and figure it out.

Thank all of you who have responded.
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You didn't say whether you tried the outside controls in the right front compartment that bypasses the Silverleaf. I am sure you already know that is the manual way to operate HWH slides on Apex with Silverleaf.

Could be one of of the solenoids behind the smart beds.You do have be careful you don't open those small solenoids over 4 turns or you will ruin them. The other thing to remember is on the vanity slide solenoids are reversed and that is why it operates faster than the other slides.
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Kraig - thank you, but tried that second. As you know we have three ways to deploy slides, level coach, start water pump, etc.

1. The Silverleaf conrol Panel on the Dashboard.
2. The Main Television has a selection which silverleaf works through, an A/V Input which is fed from the video display module behind the cabinets in the front of the coach. Using this feature, we can do it all, and see it great with at least a 32" TV.
3. The HWH control panel in the Hydraulic bay PS, behind the front wheel. Other functions have switches, in various places, i.e., water pump for instance.

I tried all three ways, so, something is keeping the slide from going out. I will continue to mess with it. Thank you for the heads up on this option. But as mentioned above, the weather now is terrible, and i'm too old to mess with it in 40 degree temps and rain falling sideways, it can wait.
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Have you found the problem as of yet? I am following this thread with interest, since I also have an 07 Apex. I hope it turns out to be an easy fix.
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No - As mentioned the weather here is horrible, and I am not getting out in the cold rain. Saturday as it stands now, seems to be better, so I might get to it then.
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Electrical connections, Silverleaf interface, bad/stuck solenoid could all be contributing to this problem. A physical block of the slide or a mechanical failure of the hydraulic cylinders, equalizer tube or the scissor slide [eg, bent or looose arm] is possible but less likely. Fact that other slides seem to work [not withstanding the one-time problem with the bed slide] kind of eliminates the shuttle valve on the pump. Manual release of the slide solenoids generally takes between 4-6 turns of the 1/4 inch nut [not the set screw] on the end of the solenoid. You can usually hear the fluid release at some point but dont go beyond 6 turns.
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Any updates on this problem yet? I also have a 2006 Apex 40 FDQS and have had some issues with my vanity slide. It does extend, but the bottom of the slide does not completely extend via the HWH, I need to go outside and pull the bottom out manually. When I had it looked at, they tried to tell me that the mechanism is too small for the weight of the slide, I don't happen to believe this, but wonder if there may be some relationship to your issue. Mine also thumps pretty loudly upon initial motion out.
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No, but getting close to bringing it home to work on this issue as our weather has been terrible, rain, cold and miserable since we got home. It's supposed to improve tomorrow, so I'm going to work on it on Monday or Tuesday. My proposed plan is to level up, extend the smartbeds so I can get to the basement area where the solenoid valves are, and open the valve a little bit and see if it then goes out, otherwise I think the "extend valve" has failed. I have spare on the main HWH unit, just have to figure out which one it is, and then plug it. Send the valve back to HWH for repair. Some of us have spare valves as we only have 3 slides. So the breakdown is: 4 jacks; 3 slides; and some have 4 smartbeds. So 11 valve pairs which leave 2 spares in the main unit unless you have 4 slides then you have none. Or if no smartbeds you also may have spares depending on how WRV configured the main pump.
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Update - went over to caoch last week, figured out I can just pull up the carpet at the bottom of this slide and make sure nothing is blocking it going out. Since when I push button to extend, the HWH pump starts, but it does not go out. Was still scratching my head, so stored other slide in, unleveled coach, and backed it back into it's stall, and put her to sleep. Then it hit me on the way home what the trouble must be, even though the pump starts, the electrical connection at the Solenoid Valve must be lose, because although the pump starts, the power for the solenoid to open must not be getting to the solenoid. It still means I have to crawl inside the rig underneath behind the smartbed, but now I know what I'm looking for. This happened on one of the smartbeds before and I caused that by trying to clean up the wires in that location, losening one in the process. This must have just jiggled lose when we were on the way home.

Old Brain Cells, and bad weather here have kept me from doing anything. We have a trip to the south coming up, so I need to sanatize the fresh water tank, so it has to come home for that, and I'll fix it then.
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