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Old 07-30-2006, 05:58 AM   #15
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We don't have the Silverleaf or the Smart tire system on our coach but after all you read about them and the problems they seem to have, how do you ever know if they are correct. Are you really ever comfortable that the feedback you are getting is reasonably accurate?
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Old 07-30-2006, 07:01 AM   #16
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ted III:
We don't have the Silverleaf or the Smart tire system on our coach but after all you read about them and the problems they seem to have, how do you ever know if they are correct. Are you really ever comfortable that the feedback you are getting is reasonably accurate? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The pressures are dead on. Whenever we air up our tires, we check them with a truck tire pressure gauge. The pressures reported on our VMS display agree with 1 PSI or so.

The temperature readings seem reasonable given the outside air temperature and weather and how long we've been rolling. Some tires are hotter than others, and it makes sense based on how road surfaces are designed. The temperature thing is more of a "relative" issue anyway. If one tire goes way out of bounds compared to the others, something is probably wrong with that tire/wheel. If they are all within a 10-15 degree range, then all is probably well.

So yes, we are comfortable that the feedback we are getting is reasonably accurate.

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Old 07-30-2006, 08:08 AM   #17
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I just had a right rear tire turn red on my toad, smart tire said it was at 12PSI. When I pulled over it was in fact at 12 PSI and going flat with a gash in the sidewall.

I agree with Audrey and John PSI is very close and temp is useful. On really hot days traveling winding roads the Left front and left inside dual have turned Yellow (160 degrees) about the same time my front tires on the toad will turn yellow (140). I have found if I slow down about 5 MPH they will cool off and turn green again. This is an indication to me that the info is very useful.
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Old 07-30-2006, 08:57 AM   #18
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Ted, I've been doing a fair amount of research on these tire monitors and I feel comfortable enough saying the Smart Tire system, while certainly the most intrusive and hardest to install,is the BEST thing out there....I will be having it installed very shortly on my rig and toad.
Bought the new rig and took right off for the National Rally and then some warranty stuff, but now that things have slowed down I am going to do it...

Would encourage you to support rvupgrades.com who sells the system and they're a major sponsor of this site.
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Those tires can get hot!

I was seeing 160s a lot driving across Utah, Idaho, NE Oregon in this recent heat wave. The inside right dually gets the hottest. One day I saw 169 degrees for a while!!

I usually drive at 60 mph.

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Thanks to all of you for replying. I'm going to work today trying to find someone in SmarTire who can tell us where to go to have our system worked on without having to going to Oregon. I will post my results.

Rebelsbeach, where do you plan to have your system installed? Do you have Silverleaf monitoring system? Seems like I read on the Newmar forum that you have a new Essex. Is this correct, or am I mixed up?

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B & B: I mentioned your sensor problem during a research conference I had today and I was told that antenna location is the key to reliably detecting all sensors and thus simply moving the antenna might cure the problem. I have no idea how that might be done but it is food for thought.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Buddy and Beverly:
Thanks to all of you for replying. I'm going to work today trying to find someone in SmarTire who can tell us where to go to have our system worked on without having to going to Oregon. I will post my results.

Rebelsbeach, where do you plan to have your system installed? Do you have Silverleaf monitoring system? Seems like I read on the Newmar forum that you have a new Essex. Is this correct, or am I mixed up?

Beverly </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My Triptek supposedly will interface with the Smart Tire,so I'm planning on having it read there.
Yes, I do have an Essex, I took possession of her the 7th of July.
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I took your suggestion, Oregon Coyote, and called SmarTire. They took my information. I also called Silverleaf. This afternoon I had a call from Dale Kemper with Silverleaf in Albany, Oregon. He mentioned the antenna as a possible problem just as you did. Anyway, SmarTire had already contacted him (I am so pleased at how fast these people have responded). He plans to be at the FMCA Rally in Charlotte, but Silverleaf does NOT plan to have a rep at the Alpine PreRally (for those of you who were wondering and "hoping"). Dale said he would schedule an appointment for us at the Charlotte Rally. Now, IF the problem cannot be resolved there, he said Lazy Days in Tampa came to mind as the nearest place where there was experience in dealing with both Silverleaf and SmarTire.

Well, since Lazy Days doesn't sell Alpine, I guess Silverleaf would be the people who would be planning to get us an appointment with Lazy Days, if we have to go that route (I guess they have that kind of "pull.") Anyway, that would be a lot closer that us driving to Oregon.

Audrey, our coach came prewired for the SmarTire from WRV, and the sensors were purchased from them; but, unfortunately the system didn't seem to get installed correctly. Thanks for responding to my questions about your coach.

Looking forward to seeing some of you next week.

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Audrey,

I forgot to answer you question as to whether we have a "build sheet." No, we do not. I'll request one. Thanks for this tip.

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I believe that I have read enough responses that you certainly have gotten my attention. Thank you all for your input. I believe it is time to look into a smart tire or silverleaf system.

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Some folks have gotten SmartTire sensors added to their toads here in Yakima. Les Schwab is doing that. Les Schwab is also coming over to the coaches to do the Silverleaf programming. So that is at least one company (or at least here in Yakima) who handles the integration.

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Thanks, Audrey, for some further suggestions. If Silverleaf looks at our system at the Rally and can't get it straigtened out, we may just come on out to the West Coast after Labor Day. (We had wanted to do a trip as far as Yellowstone this year, anyway.) Buddy said he wasn't interested in taking it to Lazy Days in Tampa when we didn't want to go in that direction. They might not figure it out anyway and may not be too inclined to try very hard, since they do not sell Alpine coaches.

When I told Buddy about the suggestion the problem might be in the position of the antenna, he said the CW tech had already mentioned that and had checked that. So, doesn't look like that will be it.

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I just wanted to put my 2 cents in. Les Schwab in Yakima is the greatest in my book. Last year I had sensors put in the toad but did not have time to get then going. We went up there a couple of months ago and Schwab programmed the Silver Leaf but was not satisfied with the sensors, so ultimately they replaced 6 sensors 4 on the toad and 2 on the coach. And every thing works perfect. And yes the senors on the toad DO still work when the toad passes the coach for about 4 car lengths.

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