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Old 06-23-2011, 10:08 PM   #15
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Then he is not playing the game fair. He should either set the price at a level which people know he is serious, or put in a reserve. To cancel just before it's over, is dishonest to a point. You got something to sell put the real price out there, in this economy no one with any brains, is going to overpay for anything. The market is very soft now for RVs, and we went to a show the other day, and the prices for the new ones are way out of line with what the quality of the units are being built toward, and I'm talking about new Monaco High End Diesel Pusher motorhomes. Powergear levelers, wow, the worst in the business, and also the worst customer support of almost RV parts company on the planet. I know several techs who won't work on there systems because they never return calls, and won't help you out at all. HWH is much better for CS than PG is.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:54 AM   #16
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I hate to see 1.00 start bid on a 2011 MH and with no idea of where the reserve is set. Those dealers should post a start bid lower than the reserve buy maybe 25%

New motor home for sale, say they what to have a reserve set at 175,000. Than can they please set the damn start bid about 150,000 and see if people will bid for that. But no they keep wasting web page space at all these 1.00 start bids and wonder why more people don't give it a bid.
I feel like bidding 50,000 on any couch that is well worth 100,000 and more maybe even 75,000 for a 200,000 MH.
What could happen is nothing but my waste of time added to eBay.

Just wanting to relax and enjoy live in my old MH when I can

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Old 06-28-2011, 03:02 AM   #19
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I just got called on a 2006 Alpine coach 40' apex 4-slide with 1700 miles. The guy is looking to get a boat and a less expensive rv. The sticker price was $423,221. Book is 260k high and 220k low. It was purchased new 10 months ago. What would this REALLY be worth? Is anyone looking for one of these?
Not sure where you are getting your figures from but I read NADA low to be 177K and average to be 213K for this vehicle. I have also heard that the free online version for consumers is artificially inflated by about 10%.

In any event, a common misuse of NADA is to start checking all the features that a coach may have and add those to the base price. NADA retail pricing assumes that this is an APEX with all standard features. Only something that was truly an option (very few available for the APEX) should be checked when using NADA pricing. Don't start checking that it has a generator or a flat screen TV, eetc. They all had those features and it is built into the prices shown. For the online NADA, I don't think you "add" any options if you are looking to get a ballpark estimate of value. If a dealer does do that to show what a great "deal" he is offering, run away fast because the dealer knows better and is misleading you.

And I actually consider this "new" last year 2006 with very low miles to be less valuable than the same year model with 15 or 20K miles of use. Better to use than sit.

If the bidding gets to $155K or 160K, he will let it go for that. If it is within 10% of low NADA retail it will get sold.
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Dealers, usually take the low retail number from either NADA or Kelly's BB, and knock off 30-40 percent. Other factors are if the company is in business, and the actual shape of the RV. WRV had their own chassis, (Great one, so no issues there) so that is a negative from the standpoint of a dealer as no one can actually work on it as in repair it from a collision point of view, so that lowers the price as well. Mine books out at 289K, but we have had dealers tell us the best on a trade would be 125K, we are going to keep it thank you very much. If value long term of the unit is your aim, then you should look at brands who are still in business, and have a long term growth plan. With the economy around the world suspect, fuel prices up significantly, I don't think there is not a lot of long term growth in the RV industry. I personally would worry about housing long before I would worry about RV values and costs. The industry has made some small gains this year.
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You are spot on Monty...
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Thank you, and not to hijack this subject, but if greece goes to pot, now or down the road when the citizens realize they are paying very high taxes, and not receiving anything for it, even defense, fire and police, they will revolt or just quit paying. That will cause a default, and JP Morgan, and a few other banks are involved in greece debt through stocks of foreign banks they purchased, so 2008 here we come again. If that happens, the RV industry might never recover, so I'm keeping what I have, for several reasons, not only because it's a nice rig, and we like to camp in it. For anyone interested what other reason I have you may PM me and I will tell you.
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Since I own a 2006 Apex 40 FDQS, I have realized that I will own this coach for a very long time unless I want to take a bath on it. It has been a great coach and at this point, I would not even think of getting rid of it even if I could without such a loss.

That said, it is very dissapointing to see the value heading the way it is. Agree with Monty, we may be watching things get worse before they get better. I am glad I own a fantastic coach as there will likely not be another that I like as well for the price point for a long time to come.
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SOLD

$160,100.00

WOW!

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2008 Alpine Coach LIMITED SE Series M-40FDQS CUMMINS 425HP - 40' Standard Equipment, Prices & Specs - NADAguides

Pricing for 2008, they don't list 2009's
Suggested List Price $363,367
Low Retail $185,420
Average Retail $223,400

REAL WORLD

Take the NADA low retail and subtract 15-20% that is what things are actually selling for
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If the bidding gets to $155K or 160K, he will let it go for that. If it is within 10% of low NADA retail it will get sold.
My chance to say, "I told you so."
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