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07-01-2007, 05:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 214
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a) 2005
b) 40FDQS
c) VIN #75239
d) 23,000
e) Adjustable Petals
f) No Problems Noted
g) Type of driving City, Mountainous, Flat
h) Pulling GMC Ext Cab Long Bed 4x4 PU 100% of time. Unified brake system
i) A subjective grade of 8
BTF
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07-02-2007, 05:47 AM
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#16
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Abington, PA
Posts: 1,103
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There is a question that must be answered by WRV or if they refuse to co-operate an outside firm. Did Wrv use all of the same brake pad material and composition in the overhanging brake pedal sysyem?.
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Ted & Carol Ulmer
2005 Alpine 34', 34FDDS
2006 PT Turbo pusher
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07-02-2007, 04:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Summer Rowlett TX (Why?)/Winter Palm Springs CA Two Springs RV Resort https://www.twospringsrv.com/
Posts: 526
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a) Model year: 2006
b) Model40' FDQS APEX
c) VIN 75598
d) Miles on vehicle 23,095
e) Pedal type hanging
f) Perceived problem/issue none
g) Type of driving (city, mountainous, flat, etc.).all of the above
h) Indicate if pulling a Toad by % of time.
4200 lb Dodge Durango 99% of time
i) A subjective grade 9
Weighing in at 31,240 lbs UVW, ours is probably the heaviest coach ever built by WRV. We have no problems with the brakes. Hopefully this problem is on a limited number of coaches.
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Basil & Sue Shannon
Former Apex owner (Gary & Renee have it now)
Was Traveling Circus (2 clowns/Sage the Wonder Dog) Tent rotted. Circus folded.
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07-02-2007, 07:32 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Traveling in North America
Posts: 2,248
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a) Model year: 2002
b) Model: 36MDDS
c) VIN: 74520
d) Miles on vehicle: 71,000
e) Pedal type: through-the-floor
f) Perceived problem/issue: Originally thought to be a master cylinder system failure - we had to stand on the brakes to stop. However, 1 month later the booster pump system failed, with leaking from pump area. Fixed by having a new booster pump/master cylinder system replaced along with new hoses.
g) Type of driving: city, mountainous, flat
h) Indicate if pulling a Toad by % of time. 95% of time pulling a 2004 Subaru Forester
i) A subjective grade (1 through 10, 10 being best) of the Braking system. Overall grade would be a "8". Since replacement brakes have function very well, including a panic stop in the middle of Chicago traffic on a Friday afternoon!
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Barbara & David O'Keeffe
Figment II (Alpine 2002 36 MDDS)
On The Road since 2006
Blog
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07-03-2007, 01:25 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Northeast PA
Posts: 1,146
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All,
Following is a brief summary of the data collected to date:
Model year, Total of grades reported, number of respondents, Avg. of reports.
1998, 0, 0, ---
1999, 9, 1, 9.0
2000, 0, 0, ---
2001, 9, 1, 9.0
2002, 8, 1, 8.0
2003, 4, 1, 4.0
2004, 0, 0, ---
2005, 16, 3, 5.3
2006, 32, 4, 8.0
2007, 0, 0, ---
At least 1 response did not include numerical data. Consequently, it/they were not considered contributory or averaged in the above summary.
Although an impression may be gained, there is not yet enough data to draw a conclusion or develop trending.
Questions to me, please.
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Bob (Squidly Down Under) & Peg - 2013 Ford Focus pushing a 2011 Phoenix Cruiser 2552S
"In God we trust" to preserve our country and bring our Troops safely home.
Carry on, regardless..................
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07-10-2007, 04:34 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Northeast PA
Posts: 1,146
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There are still a lot of replies needed to develop a meaningful survey.
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Bob (Squidly Down Under) & Peg - 2013 Ford Focus pushing a 2011 Phoenix Cruiser 2552S
"In God we trust" to preserve our country and bring our Troops safely home.
Carry on, regardless..................
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07-10-2007, 08:54 AM
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#21
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Auburn, CA, Havasu, AZ & Mulege, BCS
Posts: 5,385
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a) Model year: 2006; b) Model 36' FDtS; c) VIN 75562
d) Miles on vehicle 9,000
e) Pedal type hanging/adjustable
f) Perceived problem/issue none
g) Type of driving (city, mountainous, flat, etc.).all of the above
h) no toad yet
i) A subjective grade 9, could use a bit more assist but overall great
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Baja-tested '08 2-slide 36'
Alpine: The Ultimate DIY'er Project
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07-10-2007, 03:23 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,163
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a) 2001
b) 34 FDDS
c) 74330
d) 40,000
e) Through the floor
f) none
g) We go everywhere
h) 98% of the time towing a car, trailers with Jeep or motorcycles(trailers have brakes) and boat trailer with brakes. Toad does not.
i) 9 (I have no issues with the brakes and they seem to work very well, in my opinion)
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2014 Phaeton 36gh
2008 Jeep Rubicon or 2012 Ford F150 4x4 Lariat towds
or a couple of different trailers
Retired in Apple Valley, California
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07-11-2007, 04:20 AM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Northeast PA
Posts: 1,146
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All,
Following is a brief summary of the current data collected from the 14 respondents:
Model year, Total of grades reported, number of respondents, Avg. of reports.
1998, 0, 0, ---
1999, 9, 1, 9.0
2000, 0, 0, ---
2001, 18, 2, 9.0
2002, 8, 1, 8.0
2003, 4, 1, 4.0
2004, 0, 0, ---
2005, 16, 3, 5.3
2006, 32, 5, 6.4
2007, 4, 1, 4.0
Although there is not yet enough data to draw a conclusion or develop trending, preliminary information would seem to indicate the "through the floor" Brakes on earlier Coaches had better "Feel" and response.
Questions to me, please.
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Bob (Squidly Down Under) & Peg - 2013 Ford Focus pushing a 2011 Phoenix Cruiser 2552S
"In God we trust" to preserve our country and bring our Troops safely home.
Carry on, regardless..................
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07-11-2007, 05:05 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,553
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Year: 2000
Model: 36 FDS
Vin#: 72232 built 10/99
Miles: 53,065
Pedal type: through the floor
Problems: none except need to complete recall
Type driving: 50% hills/mtn, 2 lane roads
Toad: 3500 lbs 95%, SMI
Subjective grade of brakes: (as a 33K MH)9
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Tom, Patty, Hannah "The Big Dog" and Abby Kat, Indianapolis, Indiana 2000 Alpine 36' FDS 72232, 2005 Blue Bird M450 LXI Our Photos
"We live out in our old van. Travel all across this land. Drive until the city lights dissolve into a country sky, just me and you - hand in hand." Zac Brown Band
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07-11-2007, 07:58 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake Wales, FL
Posts: 3,113
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a) 2005
b) 38 FDTS
c) 75247
d) 13,000
e) Adjustable, hanging
f) high heat build up on winding hilly roads, however never had a failure. When I really need to stop, it does, but sometimes I wonder
g) highway as much as possible, last mile(s) are local access
h) pull a toad 99% of time, 2005 Honda CRV with EvenBrake installed
i) 7
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Dave, Bobbi and Fenway
2005 38' FDTS Alpine Limited, 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
Lake Wales, FL
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07-12-2007, 08:34 AM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Sun City West, AZ
Posts: 356
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Year: 2000
Model: 36 FDS
Vin#: 74057
Miles: 92916
Pedal type: through the floor
Problems: none after recall, big trouble first year, brakes caught fire in WY
Type driving: 50% hills/mtn, all type roads
Toad: 100%, 4200lbs
Subjective grade of brakes: 8
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Danny & Claudia
Alpine Coach Forum Founder
Currently without and RV
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07-12-2007, 12:47 PM
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#27
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hopefully on the road
Posts: 35
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a) Year: 2000
b) Model: 36 MDS
c) Vin#: 18XF4CC24Y1172228
d) Miles: 53,641 as of July 2007
e) Pedal type: through the floor
f) Problems: None. Completed WRV Brake recall at 40k. Calipers Replaced. The Tech said the pads were worn very little.
g) Type driving: Utah to Texas, 50% hills/mtn, all type roads. Use the Exhaust brake a lot.
h) Toad: 3042 lbs. In tow 99% of the time Two-wheel dolly has compression brakes
i) Subjective grade of brakes: from 1 to 10 =9
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2000 Alpine M36 Mid entrance
Cummins 330
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07-12-2007, 03:48 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: May 2004
Location: WA
Posts: 234
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a) Model year, 2002
b) Model, 38
c) VIN, 74588
d) Miles on vehicle, 35,000
e) Pedal type, through-the-floor
f) Perceived problem/issue, on hard braking, excessive pedal pressure required.
g) Type of driving, 50% hills/mtn, all type roads, use the Jake brake a lot. Pads and rotors are like new, never changed.
h) Indicate if pulling a Toad by % of time, 98% weight-3800lbs
i) A subjective grade (1 through 10, 10 being best), 7
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Gary & Renee
Mojo & Jetta
2006 APEX, Wrangler
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