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Old 01-11-2018, 05:58 PM   #1
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Brake Fluid flushing

I know that there have been loads of posts regarding Alpine brakes but, for some reason I seem to remember a mention in the Tech section (or someplace else in the literature) outlining the procedure for periodic flushing of brake fluid. The reason I'm searching for it is that I need to document this to a local shop that is trying to tell me that taking the wheels off is not necessary. I instructed them to do so when I brought the coach in for service. When I picked it up I asked them if they had done it that way and they said they didn't have to. Now they expect me to pay for work that is sub par at best. The coach is now at a shop that has inspected the bleeders and says they look as though they have not been touched. If I can find some manufacturers documentation it will support my dispute over the bill.
If anyone know where this service procedure is written down, I would appreciate it.

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Not sure if this will help.


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Old 01-11-2018, 08:28 PM   #3
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....not sure what you are looking for in the way of documentation but the conversation with the shop is obvious.....your coach has 4-piston calipers .....two calipers on each wheel -- inside and outside of disc....a physical examination will show that the bleed screws on the outside calipers on the front axle are "nearly" impossible to reach....and the outside calipers on the rear axles are, IMHO, impossible to reach....if the shop is arguing that they need only flush the four inside calipers to achieve a full flush....I don't know who/what source would be the expert to tell them no. Clearly, without flushing the outside calipers, a substantial amount of the old fluid would remain unchanged in those calipers.....
PS--there is a service manual on the ACA website under the "brakes and chassis" section regarding Meritor Quadramatic service and bleeding--references the inboard/outboard bleed screws on each wheel....
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:34 PM   #4
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Thanks, Old Scout. I'll print it out and show it to them. This was the first time I used this shop and it will be the last time. They also billed me for other work that wasn't done, which I won't go into here.

Fortunately, the shop that has it now is very reputable and has offered to take pictures if necessary. I've heard of other's bad experiences with dishonest shops but this is the first time for me. Hopefully the last.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:54 PM   #5
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I have flushed the brake fluid twice. The first time we did it ourselves, and speaking from experience, you have to pull the wheels to effectively flush the outside calipers.
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:41 PM   #6
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Thanks, JWJ. I appreciate your confirming this. I've never been involved in a dispute with a shop before. Guess I've been lucky. I'll post how this gets resolved. They charged me for other work they didn't do and I have documentation of that.
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I'm having Redlands Truck & RV do my brake flush @ the Quartzsite rally next Sunday, along w/couple other wheels-off chores. Since you have to take the wheels off (and they know that), I'm also having the 10 year old SmarTire wheel sensors replaced. You have to take the tires off the wheel & replace the sensor which is banded to the wheel for that.
I try to stack up the wheels off chores to get the most efficiency out of the overhead involved. Greasing u-joints, basic full brake inspection (I take photos of the calipers from a couple angles & save the dated photos cuz I forget a lotta lot of stuff), plug any air leaks in rear bulkhead, stuff like that which is easy to get to w/out wheels. Takes the sting out of shop maintenance when its not emergency stuff.

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