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12-09-2008, 11:38 AM
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#43
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
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Location: Spokane, WA
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We were out and about today and noted the following prices of diesel (all AZ locations):
$1.979, Flying J, I-10 Exit 1
$1.999, Sunmart/Texaco, I-10 Exit 5
$1.999, Love's & Pilot's, I-10 Exit 17
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12-09-2008, 08:51 PM
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#44
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Long Beach, CA
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Ted:
At 55 mph I get 10.2 mpg, not towing, flat roads and 9.5 combined flat and mountain (I-15 LA-LV or I-5 LA to SF). Towing I get 9.8 flat and 8.7 combined. My worst tank at 55 mph was 8.3 towing with mostly mountains.
At 60 mph, not towing, flat 9.2, towing 8.3. Mountains got down to 7.8
At 67 mph, not towing, it was 8.5 flat and 7.5 combined, towing. I never measured towing flat at 67. My worst tank ever was 7.3, mostly mountains, mostly gunning it.
My best tank ever was 10.5 (twice), once towing, once for 30%, both flat (LA to AZ).
To slow down, I've had to use the cruise control exclusively. My foot is otherwise too heavy. I nearly always tow, now.
400 ISL, regular oil
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12-10-2008, 02:08 AM
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#45
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,003
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Well, You are all lucky (south of the 49)...
Here in BC (Lower Mainland and outside GVRD)
Diesel: can $ 0.939
Gas : can @ 0.779
a Liter
I have a tuff time to understand the high Diesel price here in Canada???
Diesel is lower in Europe compared with Gas.
???????? We are getting hammered!!!!!
TW
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12-10-2008, 03:34 AM
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#46
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Senior Member
Texas Boomers Club
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Cypress, Texas USA
Posts: 8,854
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Diesel is taxed less in Europe as the governments are promoting diesel vehicles because of (1) better fuel economy and (2) lower CO2 emissions than gasoline engines - CO2 is a target greenhouse gas in the Kyoto Accord to which most (if not all) EU countries are signatories. In North America, the U.S. EPA targets NOx and particulates, where the diesel is at a disadvantage and still considers diesel primarily a fuel for the 18 wheelers which cause more road wear and tear, so the U.S. taxes diesel higher than gasoline.
Rusty
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12-11-2008, 07:49 AM
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#47
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Registered User
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Ted III & All,
Yes the apex has a 144 gallon fuel tank. I average around 8.0 - 8.7 MPG, so I figure at that rate my range is a tad over 1000 miles. Nice to know in case we really gotta move away from someplace. FWIW, I always fuel up when we arrive someplace we are going to stay at for a while, you never know when you need to move quick. Plus I have the Acqua Hot furnace system, which runs on diesel, and it works better if the tank is full. After it gets below 1/2 it does not want to work as well, and at about 3/8th left it won't run at all since it cannot pick up the fuel.
Also Flying J in Troutdale, OR is selling diesel at 2.28 gallon today. Which is dropping between 3-7 cents a day on average.
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12-14-2008, 01:32 PM
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#48
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Spokane, WA
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The prices in <span class="ev_code_RED">RED</span> are as of today, Sunday 12/14:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LindaH:
We were out and about today and noted the following prices of diesel (all AZ locations):
$1.979/<span class="ev_code_RED">$1.899</span>, Flying J, I-10 Exit 1
$1.999/<span class="ev_code_RED">$1.919</span>, Sunmart/Texaco, I-10 Exit 5
$1.999/<span class="ev_code_RED">$1.919</span>, Love's & Pilot's, I-10 Exit 17 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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12-15-2008, 08:06 PM
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#49
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Registered User
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2008
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According to the Flying J website, Troutdale, OR is 2.20 gal. You must add .24c to the price, because the Oregon Road tax is not on the price listed. It was 2.30 gal in Vancouver, WA on my way home tonight. OPEC will announce a cut in production, but I don't think in the long run it will stop the decline in price of a barrel or oil, as many people in this country cannot afford to even have a Christmas now after losing their job, so buying gas is a dream. Many of us need to remember how very fortunate we are. If the memory is good, at least 100K more people have lost their job this month. With Christmas being a bust for many murchants next January it is going to be very bad. One so called expert said 15% unemployment by mid year 2009. Many of us need to realingn our priorities, and think about where a products are made, and if it's not a country where we are viewed a friend, pass the product on buy. I do this one everything made in China, and our so called friends to the sound below Texas on food.
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12-16-2008, 04:16 PM
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#50
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Abington, PA
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Monty, I was not aware that the Apex had a larger fuel tank. Thank you for the info. Sorry for my error.
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2006 PT Turbo pusher
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12-16-2008, 05:53 PM
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#51
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Registered User
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Ted, I believe they changed it for the Limited SE which took the place of the alpine for the model year mid 07-08. According to the brochure, the capacity is I think 100-105 gal.
Don’t worry about it, all the coaches are pretty much the same except floor plans. We all have some issues and we need each other to sort them out.
My big concern is the Steering Bracket issue everyone is talking about.
I still work, but if I was retired, we would be at the DRR rally so we could listen and figure out what to do about that problem. I am feeling it's a hit or miss situation where it might affect some folks and not others at least I hope that is the way of it. Although Dale did not remove his bracket and have it fixed on a bench that would be my preferred way of repair if necessary.
I had my coach undercoated, so I am not even sure I can see up there to figure out if it's affected.
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12-16-2008, 06:13 PM
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#52
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Senior Member
Appalachian Campers Coastal Campers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: New Bern,NC
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I saw today that diesel fuel is $2.60 and gas is $1.60.. that here in eastern NC. North Carolina is working on a tax for the number of miles driven each year on the vehicle. To be paid at inspection time. The Tax is going to be between $50 to $100 for each ten thousand miles. If the state did not waste the money thay have it would be plenty.
Tom
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12-16-2008, 06:48 PM
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#53
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RV Mutant #14
Winnebago Owners Club Texas Boomers Club Freightliner Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 17,189
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On Hwy 646 and Hwy 3, Dickinson, TX, gas was $1.449 and Diesel was $2.199
Most other places in the area are $1.54 and $2.49
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12-16-2008, 09:18 PM
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#54
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Bremerton/Silverdale, WA (The Evergreen State)
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Just south of Seattle and next to Tacoma and in Fife, WA, the cheapest I've seem DIESEL is $2.29 ...this is next to the 'Port of Tacoma' and on the route of hundreds of freight trucks.
Rich
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12-17-2008, 04:10 AM
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: El Dorado Hills
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Per my last member email Pacific Pride in Shingle Springs California was $2.04 and was in this range in other parts of the west as well. Pacific Pride also known as Pioneer fuel is a cardlock facility that accepts motorhomes. I joined by responding to the ad in Motorhome or the FMCA magazine cant remember which. Two weeks ago we purchased diesel at PP in Mohave for $2.21. It is worth checking out. Jerry
34 Alpine
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12-17-2008, 06:43 AM
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#56
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 13
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On I-10 exit 45 (Vicksburg) we found diesel at the Zip Travel Stop for $1.859 and gas for $1.599. Yahoooooo
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