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11-27-2017, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Kennzz05
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Nothing in that blurb imdicates that HPR contains biodiesel. If you read all the product info you will discover the part that says it contains no biodiesel. Call it what you like.
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11-27-2017, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RVPioneer
Nothing in that blurb imdicates that HPR contains biodiesel. If you read all the product info you will discover the part that says it contains no biodiesel. Call it what you like.
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I was referring to the the line where it says recycle fats because that's exactly what biodiesel is made out of among other components
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11-27-2017, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kraig
I don't agree if the information from Cummins as far changing filters when first using B5. When first using B5, it will clean your your fuel tank out very well and it will go in your filters. You also get poorer fuel mileage and less power. I do live in Oregon and all we can get is B5 or B20.
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In Oregon Bio-diesel is mostly west of the Cascades.
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11-28-2017, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Kennzz05
I was referring to the the line where it says recycle fats because that's exactly what biodiesel is made out of among other components
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This is getting old.
I'm referring to the company's literature. Perhaps it's a cleverly worded marketing tactic to encourage those who dislike biodiesel to give their product a try. There are rules and regulations that prohibit making false claims in advertising and I would imagine that their legal department would discourage such activity. By some definition Propel Fuels claims that their HPR does not contain biodiesel. I didn't make it up and I don't really care what it contains.
Cummins says don't use it.
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12-15-2017, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennzz05
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Me too! The proof is here: Biodiesel
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12-16-2017, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray,IN
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Well, I guess you geniuses know more than the manufacturer. You certainly have demonstrated an amazing ability into find the definition of biodiesel on the internet.
Have you visited their website?
Dieselhpr.com
It states repeatedly that it does not contain biodiesel.
Since you believe it does and Cummins approves the use of biodiesel up to B20 maybe you should use it.
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12-16-2017, 07:39 AM
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If it isn't BioDiesel but is made from Fats, What is it. that is where Bio comes from plus lots of other places
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12-16-2017, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by danny285
If it isn't BioDiesel but is made from Fats, What is it. that is where Bio comes from plus lots of other places
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You'll have to call the company if you want an answer. Im not going to waste any more of my time than it takes to write these words to try to convince you.
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12-19-2017, 08:26 AM
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Some Costco fuel islands are offering diesel. I noticed the conspicuous absence of biodiesel stickers and asked the attendant why. He said it was because they don't sell biodiesel, just straight #2 diesel.
Another member discovered that Cummins allows the use of biodiesel however the genset engine is not a Cummins and the two genset engine mfg.'s discourage the use of biodiesel. It seems like the Aquahot enjoys using #2 diesel more than B5.
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12-20-2017, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Janet and Todd
Some Costco fuel islands are offering diesel. I noticed the conspicuous absence of biodiesel stickers and asked the attendant why. He said it was because they don't sell biodiesel, just straight #2 diesel.
Another member discovered that Cummins allows the use of biodiesel however the genset engine is not a Cummins and the two genset engine mfg.'s discourage the use of biodiesel. It seems like the Aquahot enjoys using #2 diesel more than B5.
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Return to Cosco and ask that attendant what additive Cosco uses to replace the lost lubricity during the refining process to remove sulfur. B2 biodiesel is the lubricity additive of choice because it it the best lubricant and lowest cost of all other lubricity additives. Diesel fuel below B5 does not have to be labeled on the pump. This study is proof: Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums
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12-20-2017, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray,IN
Return to Cosco and ask that attendant what additive Cosco uses to replace the lost lubricity during the refining process to remove sulfur.
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Now, that IS funny.
Doubt a single employee in the store will even know for a fact (doesn't mean they won't give you an answer) what percent Biodiesel was in the last tanker-load they received.
Answering petroleum engineer/chemist questions...............
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12-20-2017, 08:19 AM
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I don't think I'll use it in my ISX!
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12-20-2017, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Janet and Todd
Some Costco fuel islands are offering diesel. I noticed the conspicuous absence of biodiesel stickers and asked the attendant why. He said it was because they don't sell biodiesel, just straight #2 diesel.
Another member discovered that Cummins allows the use of biodiesel however the genset engine is not a Cummins and the two genset engine mfg.'s discourage the use of biodiesel. It seems like the Aquahot enjoys using #2 diesel more than B5.
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Onan generators are a Cummins product. When I spoke with them they approved the use of biodiesel up to B20 for their engines. I did not ask specifically about the generator. I don't have HH but would suggest a call to the company to clarify their recommendation of acceptable fuels for their system.
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12-20-2017, 04:16 PM
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Onan gensets are indeed a Cummins product but the ENGINE inside could either be a Kubota or some other brand, not Cummins.
#Cummings #Cosco
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