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04-16-2008, 04:23 PM
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: fremont, ca
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I have decided to tackle the job of changing all my own filters and fluids. I have a 36FDDS which is an 05-06 (purchased in 05 but was built with all the 06 specs).
My questions are:
1. I cannot find the remote fuel filter Fleet Guard FS1002.
2. I cannot find coolant filter Fleet Guard WF2074
Both of these filters are listed in my maintenance manual.
3. Where can I purchase the Nelson 84220A hydraulic filter used in the power steering/brake system.
4. Is the Fleet Guard Complete the best to use for coolant? And is the original ethylene or propylene glycol?
5. Anyone tried to change the fluid in the power steering/brake system themselves?
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Jerry and Judy Davis
Fremont, California
05-06 36'FDDS
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04-16-2008, 04:23 PM
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: fremont, ca
Posts: 461
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I have decided to tackle the job of changing all my own filters and fluids. I have a 36FDDS which is an 05-06 (purchased in 05 but was built with all the 06 specs).
My questions are:
1. I cannot find the remote fuel filter Fleet Guard FS1002.
2. I cannot find coolant filter Fleet Guard WF2074
Both of these filters are listed in my maintenance manual.
3. Where can I purchase the Nelson 84220A hydraulic filter used in the power steering/brake system.
4. Is the Fleet Guard Complete the best to use for coolant? And is the original ethylene or propylene glycol?
5. Anyone tried to change the fluid in the power steering/brake system themselves?
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Jerry and Judy Davis
Fremont, California
05-06 36'FDDS
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04-16-2008, 04:50 PM
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 1,085
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Jerry,
I have always gotten my filters from the Cummins dealer, sometimes the numbers are changed, but the dealer always looked that info up. On my last coach I had Cummins change the coolant to their extended life coolant. I changed my own power steering/brake fluid, it wasn't bad to do, far less messy than the engine oil.
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Dale Gerstel
2007 Limited SE 40fdts
Las Vegas, NV
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04-16-2008, 05:00 PM
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Registered User
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA.
Posts: 846
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These guys
have the Fleetguard filters, although they don't list the fs 1002. Are you sure it isn't fs1003? That is what my ISL 400 uses.
If you go to a local cummins or a truck repair shop, have your engine serial with you. Everyone here in Sactown asks for it before they will look up any part #s
Here's another place for filters.
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04-16-2008, 05:29 PM
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Senior Member
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When I say I cannot find these two filters I mean that I cannot locate them ON THE COACH. Do they exist on my model coach??
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Jerry and Judy Davis
Fremont, California
05-06 36'FDDS
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04-16-2008, 05:34 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: cayucos, ca
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Another Great brand of filters is Baldwin. They make only heavy duty filters and have the largest selection of all. Just google
"Baldwin Filter" They have an online cross reference from your part to theirs. Then the give you a list of their distributors all over the nation. You wont be sorry.
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Ross Starkenburg
2005 Holiday Rambler Navigator 43PBQ w/detroit 60 series, Lexus LX470 toad
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04-16-2008, 07:02 PM
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Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Long Beach, CA
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Jerry:
Both filters have been relocated to the engine service area on your coach, rear side door (mine is right side since the radiator is on the left). There is one fuel filter and one coolant filter. The fuel filter is a combination filter/water seperator. I bought both parts at Cummins.
There is also a transmission filter about mid engine (mine is on the left side) that can be accessed from below. Since it is so infrequently changed, they decided to leave it in the normal location.
Several Cummins mechanics crawled all over mine looking for the "typical" locations until I pointed out the easy to access side door. Both are easy to change yourself. I just had wanted to watch the first time, to make sure it was really that easy and I wasn't missing anything.
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2003 Alpine 40FDTS (400HP)
Long Beach, CA
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04-17-2008, 05:35 AM
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Morning Jerry,
Hard to focus on filter maintenance issues with all the drama surrounding WRV's closure. I am probably not an expert but here are a few ideas on changing filters on my 2003.
First, its difficult to compare notes with people who have a different model year from yours--2004-2005 was a significant change over period for our coaches. Its best to find a fellow 2005 owner and team up with them. Using 2004/2005 as a break point, here are some "generally true" statements.
1. Oil filter: the most straight-forward, located mid-engine on the driver's side. You must pre-fill the new filter with new oil prior to install--I cover the open filter end with a clean rag until just before mounting on the engine.
2. Fuel Filter[s]--older coaches have one; newer coaches have two. Primary is usually behind passenger-side service door while secondary is generally above the starter, forward on engine, passenger-side. Dont believe either require prefill as lift pump circulates fuel and prevents air going to injector pump.
3. Water filter: older ones have one; newer coaches dont. Located forward on engine, driver's side. Guess you can/should change with coolant but in between, coolant chemistry can be controlled thru DCA additives.
4. Hydraulic Filters [3]: They come in box of 6 so you get two changes for the price of two. Cover of resevoir tank is hard to get off [jammed against side fire wall]. Recommend pumping out old fluid vs disconnecting any hoses--my opinion. Old ones use trans fluid, newer coaches use motor oil--some are changing out motor oil for a special fluid to improve brake pedal pressure on newer coaches.
5. Trans filters: only ones I know of on older coaches are in body of transmission--two 4" filters. If you have transyn fluid, filter maintenance schedules are pretty long.
6. Change differential oil? Not sure what the actual interval is but 5-yrs or 50k miles is a good time to change the diff oil too.
With the right catch containers and your ability to get under the coach/engine, most of these items are fairly easy to do.....
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Old Scout
2003 40' MDTS
San Antonio, Texas
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04-17-2008, 09:43 AM
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ontario, CA USA
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Hello Jerry:
You can Mike Young at Cummins Northwest, Inc (800) 777-0336 and he can answer your questions about service. You can also have Cummins Northwest, Inc, ship you the filters or they can be ordered on line from RV Chassis Parts at a reduced price.
As for changing the Hydraulic fluid it is easy, just craw under the coach and find the hose which is labeled drain and remove it and the fluid will drain. It will take about 3 gallons to refill.
Good luck if you need a better explanation please contact me 909-214-000
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04-17-2008, 02:02 PM
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: fremont, ca
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Thanks everyone for all the help. It seems as though my coach does not have a coolant filter. The only other one I seem to not have is the remote filter FS1022. I think my owners manual is incorrect on this filter as I have located two other fuel filters - FS1003 and FF5488.
Again, thanks for the help. Any other thoughts on filter management would be welcomed.
Any thoughts on coolant change? Is it necessary to change bi-yearly when the coach mileage is quite low
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Jerry and Judy Davis
Fremont, California
05-06 36'FDDS
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