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Old 03-09-2014, 02:15 PM   #1
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Fresh Tank Sensor Quit - Silverleaf

The fresh tank sensor no longer reports suddenly. Shows empty no matter how much water is in there. I see a telephone cord plugged into a threaded sensor at the bottom of the fresh tank. The wires on the jack appear clean and brite. The wire enters a loom and goes somewhere that I can't trace. Any ideas? Reboot Vansco? Tried that. Thanks for any suggestions.
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Old 03-09-2014, 02:49 PM   #2
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Hopefully an Apexer will chime in on the process for full blown reboot of the Silverleaf (this has a coupla steps & possibly involves more than one SL box iirc) getting the process recorded here for posterity. I know RustyBear has been thru that, Monty also, probably Swans & likely CoinOp.
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Old 03-09-2014, 07:53 PM   #3
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Fresh Water Sensors

If you still have the original black plastic sensors it is very possible the sensor itself is bad. Silverleaf sells new brass sensors for the fresh water, gray water, and black water tanks. You will have to send them the TM-02 module that these sensors phone line plugs into when you order new sensors as there is calibration needed for the sensors.

The TM-02 module in my 06 Apex FDQS is located in the gray water/black water tank compartment just forward of the rear passenger side wheel. The module is a small black box about 4" by 4" by 1" with the phone jacks. There is also a phone jack for the outside thermometer located in the floor of this same compartment.

I would say that if you are getting tank level readings on your gray water and black water sensors then you have a bad fresh water sensor. If you aren't getting any tank readings at all from any of the sensors then the TM-02 may be bad. The only way I know to correct that situation is to send Silverleaf the TM-02. They are very responsive and have good service.

I know of no way to "reset" the Silverleaf system to reset the tank sensors.
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An easy test to see if the sensor is bad is switching the black water plugin with the grey water at the TM102 box and see what it shows on screen.
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Sorry meant to say fresh water sensor..
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Sorry meant to say fresh water sensor..
I would not recommend contaminating your fresh water tank with the black or gray water sensors.
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I would not recommend contaminating your fresh water tank with the black or gray water sensors.
He is saying to switch the wiring not the sensors themselves.
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I also think it is your sensor, if the rest of your house Silverleaf systems are working. Also check your TM102 to see if the fresh tank wire is securely in the socket. ( unplug and re-plug and make sure it snaps into place. You can reset the TM102 by unplugging the power source, waiting about 5-10 minutes and re-plugging the power source.

I was having issues with my sensors and replaced them all with the new brass sensors.
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The fresh sensor is gray plastic. I also found the TM-102 and thankfully it is well labeled. I'll try the unplug suggestions. Thanks!
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Nope. Still no joy. Contacting SL for a new sensor.
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I had all bad plastic ones, went by S/L and they changed them and updated the box, don't think they charged me too much around 300 I think. Try truning off all the coach power, disable the inverter, turn off the shore power breaker and also the master switches to the coach, wait 60 seconds and then repower coach, SP, and enable the inverter ( if you have it enabled), and see if that clear a S/L fault, that usually fixes mine.
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I ordered 3 black sensors. Installed the first one and it still didn't report. I installed the second one and it didn't report either for a day or so. Now it's working. Puzzling but glad it's working now. Thanks for the responses everyone. We may go with the brass ones later.
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I replaced all the plastic sensors with the Kavlico brass sensors 4 Years ago and never had any more problems.
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