May need help in the AM, Battery problem.

[Cedar41]

We pulled into this camp, put the jacks down, and let the slides out. We decided that the jacks sank too much, so we raised the jacks up without bringing in the slides. When we put the jacks back down with the blocks under the back, they went down, then went back up on their own. We thought maybe the slides out was the problem. When we tried to bring the bed slide in, only a creep, then nothing. Went thru the drill of turning off the batteries, then back on. Checked the batteries and they are bubbling, which we think means they are charging.

Soooo, maybe we have bad batteries or what. At least I can get on line to seek help since WRV will not be there tomorrow, may need to call one of you experts.

Thanks,
John and Lana

[Cedar41]

We pulled into this camp, put the jacks down, and let the slides out. We decided that the jacks sank too much, so we raised the jacks up without bringing in the slides. When we put the jacks back down with the blocks under the back, they went down, then went back up on their own. We thought maybe the slides out was the problem. When we tried to bring the bed slide in, only a creep, then nothing. Went thru the drill of turning off the batteries, then back on. Checked the batteries and they are bubbling, which we think means they are charging.

Soooo, maybe we have bad batteries or what. At least I can get on line to seek help since WRV will not be there tomorrow, may need to call one of you experts.

Thanks,
John and Lana

[Dave Fernandez]

Hello John & Lana:

Sorry to hear about your problem, when this happened on our 2001 six months after we took delivery, I check everything the solenoids on the HWH were working but the Jacks did not come back down. I did not have the slides out so I did not have to bring them back in. When I contacted HWH I was told to take it to a HWH dealer, they found a defective Pump. I was told they almost never fail. In Order to pull the slides back in read the HWH booklet and there should also be instructions in the HWH cabinet to crank the slides back in. The crank handles were also with the paper work for the Alpine. Sorry but I do not think it is your batteries.

I hope this helps if you have any other questions you can contact me at d2dfernand@verizon.net or by cell phone 909-214-0000.

Dave

Cedar,

When every you ask for help, help us out by telling us what coach you have. All things are not created equal, if you understand what I meant. Then bring your question to the forum that relates to your coach, if you have a coach.

Batteries boiling, is not a good sign, but we need to know what coach you have, how old it is, gas or diesel and ect. You can add some of that infor to your signature.

I just so happen to see this topic, otherwise I wounldn't have gone that far down the page.

Tomcat F15

[Audrey & John]

They have a 38ft 2004 Alpine Coach Limited which is why they posted on this forum.

Wow guys - sounds scary. Wish we had a clue to help you...

Motorhome Specialists is open on Saturday from 9 to 5 p.m. Maybe they can help you (817) 790-7771 or (800) 335-6054 .

Audrey

[DR Dave]

HI JOHN SORY TO HERE ABOUT YOUR TROUBLE. WE HAVE A 2000 ALPINE. YES IT DOES SOUND LIKE YOU NEED HWH COULD BE MANY THINGS FROM UNDER THE DASH TO SOMETHING IN HYD. COMPARTMENT. BATTERIES BUBBLING IS OK THEY ARE CHARGING AND GIVEING OFF GAS. IF HWH WILL NOT COME TO YOU, YOU WILL NEED TO PULL YOUR SLIDE IN BY HAND. CHECK YOUR BOOK AS DAVE SAYS. MY PROUBLEM WAS A PLUG UNDER THE DASH UNDONE THERE ARE ALLSO MANY FUSES THERE TO. AND HARD TO GET TO.
DR DAVE

[Cedar41]

Do the house or chassis batteries operate the HWH

[Cedar41]

We appreciate all the help, have talked to the Dealer, talked to lots of other, not a clue yet. Going to test the things we can get to. Looks like the only repair shop close will not be open today, so will board the Train to Grand Canyon tomorrow and deal with it on Monday. Will advise, thanks again.

John

[DR Dave]

Not sure but think it is on the house battery

[Mike & Nancy]

Cedar 41

Here is the web site for HWH.

www.hwhcorp.com

Very good site, has operator's manuals...... Alpine uses the 610 Series Leveling system. They also have a troubleshooting section on the site,

Hope this helps

Mike

[Audrey & John]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cedar41:
Do the house or chassis batteries operate the HWH </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
On our unit we think the chassis batteries operate the HWH because the ignition switch has to be in the ON or ACC position to operate the slides and levelers.

Each slide has its own motor, so something has gone wrong on your unit that affects everything. The system will not operate on low batteries but it seems like many other things could affect the total system operation.

Wish we knew more to help you out!

Audrey

[SteveS]

I believe HWH is operated by chassis batteries (ingition has to be on to operate). Can you get to the controller? I would start by checking all the connectors that go to the controller. See if they are tight and no loose wires. Since the slides are not supposed to deploy without jacks down that would explain why you cannot move the slides. The creep from your slide was from pressure being released when you tried to move them. With the jacks originally retracting after you put blocks down, it would seem that a signal indicating the coach is in drive (or in gear) is being sent, and jacks are then retracted for safety. Assuming no bad components,it all leads me to believe a connector loose, wire(s) loose or open/bad status line from the transmission.

[Cedar41]

WEll,wonder if tomorrow we put the coach in gear and move up some, then try if it would work.

May try that.

Thanks.

[Audrey & John]

I think the slides deploy just fine without the jacks down - there is no interlock preventing this. I noticed at our dealer's that they never bother to put the jacks down on their lot, but they have the slides out all the time.

Now you are not supposed to deploy your slides unless you are level, and in some cases you have to have the jacks down in order to be level.

Audrey