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Old 11-09-2005, 10:07 AM   #1
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Just a quick heads up. We will be picking up our new Apex on the 18th of this month. We will let let you know how it comes out of the gate and what if anything we find wrong. I am very optomistic about this coach and believe that they will go over it with a fine tooth comb. I know that we certainly will. So wish us luck. You will be able to see the Apex in QZ.
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:07 AM   #2
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Just a quick heads up. We will be picking up our new Apex on the 18th of this month. We will let let you know how it comes out of the gate and what if anything we find wrong. I am very optomistic about this coach and believe that they will go over it with a fine tooth comb. I know that we certainly will. So wish us luck. You will be able to see the Apex in QZ.
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:15 AM   #3
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Lyle,
We will be waiting with great anticipation to see how well the QC process works with your APEX. We are scheduled to pick up our 40'MD APEX around 3/1.

Good luck,

Paul & Dale
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:31 AM   #4
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Lyle, Your rig should be coming w/the Goodyear tires (all the rigs on assembly line in late August had 'em). The typical road test is southeast of town on the concrete freeway. W/the Toyo's we get wonderfully smooth & quiet response on asphalt, but abruptly louder, metallic sounding feedback on concrete. Let us know about road noise from the front end (in addition to all the Apex goodies!!).
FYI, on our rig, the water-fill pathway was set for canister filter bypass, so the filters were dry till I discovered it (while installing the Vagabond RO). Apex has auto-RO, but there is a bypass on that too. My guess is that your tank would come w/water in it that has bypassed filters & RO (i.e. valved to all bypasses) unless you ask otherwise. IIWM, I'd ask that the tank be left dry & that you fill it using the filter & RO during PDI. You can hook up to the hose, set the valving & controls, & go about other PDI while the tank fills; that way you get a true operational walk thru on this system as well.
Looking forward to you flexing your Apex @ Qzite.
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Old 11-09-2005, 12:33 PM   #5
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Thanks for all the suggestions, we appreciate it. We are open to any other suggestions as well. We will respond with answers to the questions asked as soon as we have them. We will spend several days with the rig before we take her home. Can't wait!
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:56 PM   #6
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FRESH MEAT!!
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:42 PM   #7
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The water in our fresh water tanks was YUCKY!! Perhaps related to having winterizing our unit, but we weren't sure. Strange perfumey soapy smell.

Our coach came with the water filters bypassed. We figured that out after a couple of days and crawled in the bay to open the valve route water through the filters.

When we returned to our dealer after a month for some minor repairs we had them flush out our water tanks a few times. Fortunately that fixed our weird smell problem.

So - I second Mikes suggestion to leave the fresh water tank dry. But that may not be possible because I think they are required to fill the fresh water tank and fuel and propane to weigh the coach to establish the CCC. But the CCC may be mostly a calculation so maybe they don't have to do that.

In our coach the water in the fresh water tank does not go through the house filters on fill (only on use). So when we fill our tank we use an external filter just to keep crud out of the tank.

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Old 11-10-2005, 09:14 PM   #8
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Mike, you will think fresh meat! We will see you on the 18th, yuk yuk

Engineer Mike and Audry I will take heed of your advice on the water system. Thanks
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Have a safe trip over here! Roads are getting just a little bit slick in the mornings.
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:22 PM   #10
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Thanks for the headsup we will be careful. we will come up on Thursday to be there on Friday morning.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:18 PM   #11
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OK folks I am writing to you from our new Apex. WE are sitting out in the lot and plan to be here for the whole week. That way we can get everything fixed and we can learn what makes this hi-tech coach tick. We spent from 10:00 this morning until about 6opm PDIing the coach and will continue throughout the weekend and next week.
So how was QA at the gate? We believe it was at least as good as a Prevost. Incredible red carpet treatment and so far nothing major to gripe about. Sure there were minor things but nothing major. Fit and finish are superior, and let me assure you that we have been meticulous in examining the coach. Anything that we mentioned was immediately written down to be fixed next week. The PDI team was terrific, thank you Izzy & Fred for your patience and persistence in making sure that the coach was exactly as we wanted it. So far we are very pleased but we will keep you posted with the good, bad and the ugly if it should raise its ugly head. But at this point frankly we don't expect that to happen.
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:01 PM   #12
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EngineerMike, The road test seems to be pretty similar to the Toyo. Concrete is louder but I don't think really metallic. Basically like in the car except you are sitting on the tires in the coach and so of course its louder. I don't have experience with the Toyos so I can't really tell if it is better or worse.
The advanced Silverleaf will take some getting used to and I think it needs some calibration. I will keep you posted.
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Old 01-01-2006, 06:24 AM   #13
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Good morning and Happy New Year to all. We have started our trek to DRR and are now boon docking at Rolling Hills Casino just south of Corning, CA. Problem: Hydro-hot not working. The light for diesel or elec does not come on when the switches are pushed. I checked the fuse in the service bay and it is good and I tried the low voltage reset and frankly do not feel a switch in the hole.
Our immediate fix is to start the gen set and turn on all the halogen lights to warm up the coach a little.
Any ideas PLEASE?
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Old 01-01-2006, 08:33 AM   #14
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Cath, are any of the warning lights common to the control panel on? I have the shop manual and might be able to give you a clue as to what to try, if a lights is on. How about the 110 breakers? You can also get the service manual on line at there web site http://www.hydro-hot.com .
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