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09-04-2019, 12:03 AM
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New owners of a 2002 Alpine
Hello fellow alpine owners. We just got our 2002 alpine 37’ a couple weeks ago. Making it our own. I installed a new color rear view and side view camera system. Also installed new exhaust this past weekend. Ended up just straight piping it 4” with no muffler. Has 42k miles. While under the coach wiring the new back up camera everything seemed dry. I redid some of the caulking along the side seams.
We are excited to take it out in our first adventure. It was mainly purchased to haul our 27’ enclosed trailer for racing.
For now just looking to fix minor timings. One of the leveling jacks was not retracting. I doubt the tanks have been treated recently.
I’d really like to upgrade the outside patio lights?
Also is the hwh hydraulic system self bleeding?
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09-04-2019, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoaglandt616
Hello fellow alpine owners. We just got our 2002 alpine 37’ a couple weeks ago. Making it our own. I installed a new color rear view and side view camera system. Also installed new exhaust this past weekend. Ended up just straight piping it 4” with no muffler. Has 42k miles. While under the coach wiring the new back up camera everything seemed dry. I redid some of the caulking along the side seams.
We are excited to take it out in our first adventure. It was mainly purchased to haul our 27’ enclosed trailer for racing.
For now just looking to fix minor timings. One of the leveling jacks was not retracting. I doubt the tanks have been treated recently.
I’d really like to upgrade the outside patio lights?
Also is the hwh hydraulic system self bleeding?
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One of the best thing we ever did was replacing the springs on our levelers. The originals just didn't do the job well. That was 9 years ago and we are still having no problems with them. Once every few months we will wipe down the cylinders before retracting with a little bit of the fluid, otherwise, we have no problems.
I assume you are talking about treating the fresh water tank. The other tanks don't need any 'treatment', just use sufficient water and dump regularly. We also use the back rinse for the black tank a couple times a year. We've had our 2002 since Oct of 2005. She's just at 160K now.
I'm not sure what you mean by no muffler?
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Figment II (Alpine 2002 36 MDDS)
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09-04-2019, 08:41 AM
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Thank you for the reply! May I ask where you found the springs?
The muffler on the exhaust system was all rotted out so I had to replace the end portion of the exhaust.
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09-04-2019, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoaglandt616
Thank you for the reply! May I ask where you found the springs?
The muffler on the exhaust system was all rotted out so I had to replace the end portion of the exhaust.
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Ordered them directly from HWH. It probably is a two-person job to put on (hubby and BIL did ours) but a lot of people can it by themselves.
I'm still amazed that one would go without an muffler on their rig - - you must be a hit in parks.
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09-04-2019, 12:34 PM
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Even the Aero Exhaust that some owners have installed makes quite a statement.
There are a couple of threads here that discuss various methods of replacing the springs. I believe azpete can remove one in 30 seconds with lever he built.
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09-04-2019, 05:19 PM
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It is important to let the HWH system run until it shuts itself off when storing the jacks. Failing to do that leaves the fluid in the lines under pressure. The symptoms can vary from failing to completely retract to the jack dropping down a little while under way. When I get ready to move, i crank up the coach and let the air system lift the jacks off the ground. I then hit the "store" button. You can drive when you get the green light but leave the system on.
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09-04-2019, 11:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andy29847
It is important to let the HWH system run until it shuts itself off when storing the jacks. Failing to do that leaves the fluid in the lines under pressure. The symptoms can vary from failing to completely retract to the jack dropping down a little while under way. When I get ready to move, i crank up the coach and let the air system lift the jacks off the ground. I then hit the "store" button. You can drive when you get the green light but leave the system on.
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I almost went with the aero muffler but after talking to some folks....and seeing how rotted the muffler was, it was basically an open exhaust already. Now with 4" sticking out the side its not much louder and less echo beings its being directed out from underneath the coach.
Yes I tried this multiple times; ran through the whole process multiple times. It would retrace a bit then get stuck in one area and with the system still running open (in store mode) I could pry the plate up and once it got past this bad spot then it would start retracting on its own again. cleaned and coated the piston with some fluid and no luck. even sanded it with 1000 grit and cleaned and coated. I ended up taking it to the hydraulic shop and it definitely needed a bore they said.
I guess i will ask now, is the hwh a self-bleeding system when i go to install this rebuilt cylinder?
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09-05-2019, 02:49 PM
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I treated the fresh water tank yesterday and plan to dump it this afternoon. Sounds like getting it to seal again is a pain. I will hope for the best.
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09-05-2019, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoaglandt616
I treated the fresh water tank yesterday and plan to dump it this afternoon. Sounds like getting it to seal again is a pain. I will hope for the best.
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Why do you think it is a pain? Pull the handle, let it drain (if it is full, 100 gallons spreads all over) then push the handle in. Done. We do this every year before heading out for the summer.
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09-05-2019, 09:41 PM
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All the old posts I’ve read it seems it never seals right after draining
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09-05-2019, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoaglandt616
All the old posts I’ve read it seems it never seals right after draining
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Well we have had our coach since 2005 and have never had a problem. Now, the handle isn't easy to get to, especially if the slide is out, but maybe we are really lucky.
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09-06-2019, 08:03 AM
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FWIW, I've never had a problem with it sealing after dumping.
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09-06-2019, 09:36 AM
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No issues here. I really appreciate all the help from you folks.
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09-07-2019, 12:32 PM
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I have had trouble with the seal for the fresh water tank. Even after I replaced the valve it was inconsistent. I finally added some straps to limit the cable flex and now the valve will close evert time.
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