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08-26-2009, 08:36 PM
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I replaced the LYGHT transfer switch on our 2003 this week. The old LPT50CA was buzzing loudly the last few months and finally quit--shore power failed to connect/stay connected and one leg of genset power eventually failed as well. Our 2003 has a stand-alone x-fer switch with an after-market Progressive Industries surge guard to protect shore power.
I selected the LPT50BRD to reduce the buzzing caused by the LPT50CA AC-current contactors [BRD uses DC current to activate contactors]. During install, I noticed one of the terminals on the old X-fer switch was loose and had melted the terminal block and some of the wire covering. In retrospect, this may have contributed to my front A/C acting up [eg, frequent stop/starts--A/C compressors dont like low current]. This wire was loose despite having inspected and tightened these terminals within the last two years. Note--the CA model has a set of secondary terminal screws underneath the primary terminal lugs on one contactor bank [cross-ties the two contactor banks].
This LPT50CA lasted some 6-7 years but I have to wonder whether leaving the shore power connected while in storage contributed to the failure [contactors stay activated while on shore power].
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08-26-2009, 10:04 PM
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Contactors (with either AC or DC coils) for transfer switches are designed for continuous duty, having the coach plugged in during storage should not have contributed to the failure.
I do think it is a good choice to replace the transfer switch with a DC model as you have done, usually they have better transfer characteristics (less contact bounce and less chance for chatter as the plug is plugged in).
Stewart
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08-27-2009, 08:26 PM
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Typically, the default position of the transfer switch is for shore power. The coil is not energized and the contacts can handle the current.
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08-27-2009, 08:42 PM
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Pretty sure the design of the LYGHT requires the contactor to be closed [energized] to conduct shore power--thus the constant humming. With the Cutler-Hammer contactors, gravity opens the contacts, the coil lifts/closes them.
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08-27-2009, 09:04 PM
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You both are right  .
I've personally used both designs, one with two DPDT contactors and one with two 3PST contactors. The DPDT are used in my current Iota transfer switch, the 3PST was used on a Progressive Industries model (both these were 50A and both use DC coils on the contactors).
Both contactors on the Iota are de-energized on shore power and energized when on generator. The Progressive had one relay that was energized on shore power, the other energized when on generator.
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08-28-2009, 04:17 PM
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After being on my back in the basement and looking up at the ceiling [floor] for awhile during the install, I am no longer sure which way is up??????. Energized or not, I am betting on the LPT50BRD's DC-contactors not buzzing so much--hope I am right....
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08-28-2009, 06:51 PM
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Where are you getting the DC voltage from? The rectified AC coming from the park or from one of the batteries on the coach? Iron Mike
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08-28-2009, 07:39 PM
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Can't tell you the technology involved but according to the specs, the LPT50BRD converts incoming AC power to DC current to activate the contactors. No outside/secondary DC wiring is required.....
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