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12-23-2013, 09:59 PM
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Steering Bracket Total Replacement
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12-24-2013, 07:11 AM
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Yup--pretty sturdy....and expensive too.....check out the forum on this subject--there is a much more elegant [simple] solution available....
PS--this is not a paid advertisement--just an observation.......[smile]
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12-24-2013, 08:42 AM
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I've seen the forum. I even sent the links to the forum and youtube videos to the dealer. This is the one they chose to install. It was so impressive I just had to share the pics with our new friends on iRV2 . They didn't say how much it cost them. Only that the manufacturer thought mighty highly of their work. I'd say they are treating us very well.
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12-24-2013, 08:50 AM
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Looks similar to the original Mk I bracket.
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12-24-2013, 11:28 AM
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It may be the long way around the post, but looks like it should work to me.
Did they use Grade 8 fasteners? And Loctite?
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01-22-2014, 03:33 PM
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To Janet in WA---Last evening I spent several hrs trying to fine the info you forwarded, without success! Please advise me where it is so I can find it. Has it been examined by any competent authority, who , name, address, ph.#, and E-mail address. What was the comparison? Cost of unit and installation you pd? What if any of our friends made any comparison comments? I can't tell for sure, but it appears the vertical movement , if any is eliminated or minimized. However, I can't determine if the bending in the vertical rt. angle is either eliminated or minimized. Any and all comments would be appreciated Thanks
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01-23-2014, 11:35 AM
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Hello Waterdog,
Sorry, I don't recall forwarding anything to you. The bracket I posted photos of was installed by Kaiser Brake and Alignment of Eugene OR. Kaiser Brake and Alignment, Inc. You will have to ask "Mel" at Kaiser to answer your questions as I do not have the answers you seek. The bracket appears to be made of metal. The cost to us was $0.00. I simply asked the dealer who sold us the coach to see if the steering bracket mod had been done and this was the outcome. The information you receive from Mel may be of some value to others here so if you have the time or inclination to share what you have learned, I'm sure it would be very appreciated.
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01-23-2014, 03:49 PM
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steering bracket modification
Janet, I am sure that the pictured bracket will do the job. That being said I prefer the design of Engineer Mike who has owned at least three motor homes the last two being Alpines. His design is on my own 2006 Alpine and has functioned well for over 50,000 miles. Mike's owner/ user knowledge and his engineering background is well known by the Alpine community. I am not an engineer but in my personal opinion Em's design has worked well for me.
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02-10-2014, 12:52 PM
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This is Mel, the service manager with Kaiser Brake & Alignment Inc in Eugene, Or. I received a phone call this morning regarding our replacement Alpine steering gear bracket & some questions regarding the fabrication of the new replacement bracket. The old brackets in question were fabricated with 1/4" steel & weighed about 30lbs. Our replacement bracket is fabricated using 5/16" steel, additional reinforcements, powder coated & weight about 44lbs. We use 3/4" grade 8 bolts to secure the new bracket in place. I have inclosed a few pictures of an old original bracket that we recently replaced along with pictures of a non powder coated replacement brackets.
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02-12-2014, 08:32 AM
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I am considering a 02 Alpine 40 FD. Is the steering bracket a concern on all years? The unit I am considering is in FL and I suspect may have corrosion issues. Would appreciate any input. Phil
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02-12-2014, 08:40 AM
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The problem only seems to affect 2004 and newer coaches. That does not mean there may not be a corrosion problem with the 2002. But it is not a big deal to replace it either way.
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02-18-2014, 02:11 PM
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Steering Bracket Total Replacement
I asked net some questions, which she was unable to answer. So I called Kaiser Brake and spoke with Mel the Service Manager. He advised the desiign and mfg. of the complete bracket was their work and the price was $600.He also clarified that if you took Janet's 1st picture and rotated it 1/4 turn to the right (clockwise) it would be in the install position. The 3 triangular pieces of steel with the point facing to the rear and the straight edge facing the front appears to present a strong impediment to front to rear and vice versa movement of the plate bolted to the frame.
I for 1 and I am sure others would appreciate any and all commentary derived from observation of the various photos.
And last but not least, shouldn't this THREAD be incorporated into the WRV Alpine Steering Bracket Upgrade? I would have tried if I had any idea how to start.
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02-18-2014, 08:05 PM
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Interesting. I was quoted $450 for the part, plus estimate of 4 hrs to install, tho the pitman arm may be seized to the steering gear shaft & incur extra labor.
For this setup you have to remove the pitman arm, remove the steering gear from bracket (not sure if it suspends from the steering shaft or if you have to support it somehow), saw off 4 Huck bolts the forward two of which are in 7/8" of steel, remove oem steering gear bracket, drill out 4ea Huck holes for 3/4" bolts the forward two of which are in 5/8" of steel and up next to the forward bulkhead with the steering gear at least partially in your way, drill two more 3/4" bolt holes, then install the new bracket. Re-install steering gear & pitman arm.
With the method here, and here, you skip the forward two Huck removals, and don't drill out any existing holes, take out two rear Hucks, drill 4 new 5/8" bolt holes, & bolt in the reinforcing. As a DIY method, this is a lot easier and more predictable labor.
Not to say the Kaiser method doesn't get the job done.
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