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Old 07-12-2013, 08:42 PM   #15
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The Bridgestones were of course 295's. I had to think hard about the BFG 275. Yup when the Bridges came off and we rolled a mounted 275 next to them, I almost backed away. They truly looked whimpy. But, if I am ever in snow, the 275's will be better.:-)
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Old 07-17-2013, 11:11 PM   #16
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FWIW-Michelin will warranty their tires for 10 years if you do the following:
1-At the five year point, have them dismounted at an authorized Michelin dealer and have them inspected bout outside and inside, if they pass, they get another year, you will need to do this every year. But the dismount/remount will be cheaper than a new set at the 5-6 year point.

I suggest everyone go to the website for Michelin, and read about their warranty provisions, the inspection process, and then you will know.

We are going to have to put new tires on ours this year, but first I need to fix the ball joint issue, and support the drag link bar, and have it aligned first, then the new tires.
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Old 07-18-2013, 06:49 AM   #17
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Again, thanks to all for the inputs. Even beyond the IRV2 inputs I have researched the tire differences and without fail all remarks state about the same, Michelins are the best and will give you the best ride and handling. I bought my Alpine Coach because I was impressed with how it handled. Therefore I have made the decision that I will not go to a lower end tire to save a few bucks. I originally paid for the best and that is what I want to continue with. My Apex needs the 29580R22.5 with the load H rating as the Coach loaded is heavy. The only problem I have now is the Michelins are so popular they are back ordered until the middle of August. Happy Trails.

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Old 07-18-2013, 08:27 AM   #18
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IMHO, you are making the right decision about value Vs cost--the FMCA deal makes the Michelin products more competitive with other name brand tires. Two points to consider--1] Think the fine print on the Michelin 10-year warrantee requires a dis-mount inspection every year after the 5th year to qualify--that gets expensive. 2] would still consider 11Rs on the back and 295 80Rs on the front--at $130 a tire difference, I am not sure you are getting good return on your investment to put 295s all the way around. That is unless money is no object for you...just saying.
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FWIW - I heard EM suggest at a gear head session that putting Michelins on the front and whatever brand on the rear is one means of saving $$$ without sacrificing ride & handling. Hopefully I've quoted him correctly because that's exactly what I plan to do.
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Think EM was suggesting putting the Michelin "top-secret Model X" supper-dupper RV steer tires on the front and then putting something a bit cheaper on the back to handle the less critical duals application -- that too would make sense--IMHO....
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FWIW-Michelin will warranty their tires for 10 years if you do the following:
1-At the five year point, have them dismounted at an authorized Michelin dealer and have them inspected bout outside and inside, if they pass, they get another year, you will need to do this every year. But the dismount/remount will be cheaper than a new set at the 5-6 year point.

I suggest everyone go to the website for Michelin, and read about their warranty provisions, the inspection process, and then you will know.

We are going to have to put new tires on ours this year, but first I need to fix the ball joint issue, and support the drag link bar, and have it aligned first, then the new tires.
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I looked up their warranty. It specifically states for non commercial use. Nothing about ten years. They do have a 7 year 700k warranty for long haul use. If I am wrong, show me where you find it. Is it through FMCA?

Here is the warranty from Michelin, note CONSUMER use.

WHAT IS COVERED AND FOR HOW LONG – CONSUMER USE
Workmanship and Materials
MICHELIN® truck tires bearing the MICHELIN® name and complete serial and identification numbers, used in consumer service, such as on a motorhome, according to the instructions contained in this Operator’s Manual, are covered by this limited warranty against defects in workmanship and materials for the life of the original tread, or five years from the date of purchase, whichever occurs first. At that time, all warranties, expressed or implied, expire.
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I also hunted around the Michelin web site, and could not find where I read the 10 year thing. I have contacted them for clarification, and they will respond when they do, I will post the result on here. I remember reading about a 10 year plan, but then old brain cells, and I know it was a few years ago I read it, things might have changed. I am sure if it exists, there are certain conditions it must be stored in, to validate any 10 year warranty, like white colored tire shields, etc.
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I'm pretty sure 5 years from date if purchase is the current warranty as the booklet specifically states "motorhomes."
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Here is Michelin's response.

In regards to the email you sent stating:
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I thought I read on your website that certain RV tires have a 10 year warrant under certain conditions, was I dreaming? Please send documentation on the warranty for RV tires please. Thank you.
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Thank you for your interest in the life of Michelin RV tires, Montgomery.

Replacement of RV tires depends upon many factors such as inflation pressure, maintenance, exposure to weather, and conditions of use such as load.

Tires that have been in use for 5 years or more should continue to be inspected by a specialist at least annually. It is recommended that any tire in service 10 years or more from date of manufacture, including spares, be replaced.

Please see our Technical Bulletin regarding service life at the web address below:

www.michelinrvtires.com/michelinrv/toolbox/reference-material.jsp


The Link takes you too some information already discussed, but the RV Tire Guide is something as a reference to keep. The warranty is 7/700K. But as explained above, you could go 10 if you dare.


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You could always buy Yokohama. Their warranty states " Tires are covered by this warranty for the life of the original usable tread down to the tread depth indicators molded at 2/32" (1.6mm)."
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I have my second set of Michelin XZE2's on the coach, this set bought under the FMCA program, and love them. But after 5 years they are coming off of the coach regardless of what Michelin states or a tire inspector tells me, just like the first set came off after 5 years. In my opinion, it is not worth the risk. If I can't afford to buy new tires after 5 years it is time to sell the coach.

I am guessing, but I would assume that if my tire blows out, Michelin will be happy to put a new tire on whatever is left of the coach after the blowout. But I seriously doubt their warranty would cover the damage incurred. Tom can probably answer that. I trust his opinion on tire issues. It is his business after all.

In the past with Class C coaches I have had tire tread separation issues with tires that were older than 5 years. But fortunately they did not blow out. They just failed and I caught them before a blowout. I won't take that chance with the Alpine Coach. I like it too much!
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Jim, I am glad you are happy with the E2's as I am considering them to replace my RY023's. I talked at length to a Michelin engineer at the GEAR rally and he was firmly convinced that RV's should use "regional" tires (E's) and not line haul tires (A's). This somewhat contradicts what the RV guide on the Michelin website says as it recommends several A's for RV use. It also does not list the XZE2 as recommended for RV's. When I called Michelin they said that was a mistake and the E2 is definitely recommended for RV's. My point here is that just because the Michelin website says something does not mean it is true. Glad you are using common sense in your decision process.
You may be interested to know that Europe has had the XZE2+ tire for a while and the US will shortly be getting the XZE3. May be worth waiting to buy your next set.
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I would argue that although Michelin own BFG they are not the same tire. My Michelin dealer quoted me for the ST230 but when I told him how much the Michelin XZE2 tire would cost me through the FMCA Advantage program he said I would be crazy not to buy the Michelins. For the uninitiated 295/75R22.5 and 275/80R22.5 are the same size and are known in the industry as "lo-pro 22.5".
I had to go with Michelins on our DSDP due to it's front end weight and limited clearance. No other manufacturer (at that time) made a comparable tire (305/70 22.5) that would fit.
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