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Old 10-03-2012, 09:35 PM   #1
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Waste Master Operation Apex

Hi, we are the new owner's of a 06 Apex and am trying to learn its systems. How does one retract the black water hose. I'v tried the remote, replaced the battery in the remote and in pressing the 2 button I can hear the motor for the trap door cycle it closed or at least I think that's what its doing. Is there a secondary or manual switch that will retract the hose ? Any help is appreciated.
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:42 PM   #2
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On our Apex in addition to the remote, there is a rocker switch on the left lower side of the hose. Don't know if yours will be the same or not. Chuck will try to take a picture of it and I will try to post it here.
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Sorry, it is on the right side not the left!
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If that does not work you can close both gray and black valves and drain hose and leave valve open on the end of the hose. Then you can manually shove the hose back in. Close the valve on the end when you get it almost shoved in. This procedure is your last resort one if all others fail.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:20 AM   #6
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That is exactly the same as what is on mine. I was fortunate to have found a Apex owner in my city after I posted this who is going to meet me tomorrow to give me some instruction on operation of system(s). Thank you so so much for taking the time to respond to my question.

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One other thing we thought of is if you don't close the valve on the end of the hose, the air will not retract the hose. We experienced that in our early ownership days. Congratulations on your Apex! We really like ours.
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Is the other Apex owner Tom Polk?
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Yes I am. And I am on my way to Chula Vista
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The APEX sewer hose retracts and extends with air pressure, so the engine needs to be running or the system needs to have air pressure in it for it to work. You can manually fill the system via an air chuck in the tank bay, which is opposite side of the services bay; don't go over around 50 PSI when filling the system to be safe. Manual method has already been explained.

The remote and the brain both need to be synronized if the batteries have been removed, there is a proper procedure for that, so you need to call Waste Master for that information. I think if I search enough, I can find that e-mail, but it also may be lost. I just rebuilt my computer and lost all the e-mail addresses I had for alpine and rv'ing folks. They will be happy about that.
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Old Rv'er,
Thanks for information. Did have to replace battery in remote, but, it seems to be working ...so far. That is helpful to know about battery and psi. The red light on the waste switch remains on however, I can hear the valve closing and have cross checked by manual method of open and close, thanks to Tom guiding me through systems and how they work. Thinking either sensor is clogged or going bad.
Also, do you know of any instructions available in changing out the black hose out as the one I have has numerous pin holes. Want to upgrade with newer waste master.
Thanks for the help
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Steve, call Waste Systems, they have an indestructible hose for our coach. I had to replace mine and also the hose end, as it leaked. It a great value for the money, you can drive over the hose and it won't break or anything.

In the tank bay, Passenger Side across from the service bay, there are some power and indicator connectors coming off the valves, they look like PC Hard Drive connectors of years past. Disconnect them one at a time, and put some Vaseline in each end. Put them back together, and that should clear up the light issue since the connection is most likely dirty. Do this for both of them.

Are the valves at a 45 degree angle or are they perfectly horizontal? If they are horizontal, then you need to move them to the 45 or 90 degree angle up, so they work correctly. Send me a Personal Message with your e-mail and I will send you some documents I have on the system.
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Like Monty, I also replaced my hose. I had them install a clear plastic 4" pipe before the discharge nozzle. They can make the hose any length you want, so I added an extra couple feet. If you need a longer hose, you can screw a regular sewer hose onto the nozzle. You have to remove the rubber boot first.

As far as retracting the hose with the air switch, I had a problem with the air valve. While driving down I-5, I started loosing air pressure. When I stopped and got out, air was discharging out the 1 1/2 vent pipe. There was 1/4" air supply line which I plugged with a brass plug. I left it plugged and manually push the hose in now, since I don't like stopping the freeway.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:11 AM   #14
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Kraig,
I ordered the replacement hose and valve tonight and think I can do the R/R myself, at least give a try. How did you lose pressure and what should I look for to make sure I don't run into the same issue. And I agree, stopping on freeway could ruin the fun.
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