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Old 04-26-2010, 11:04 PM   #1
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Water Pump On/Off Switch

Hey Guys,
Our 1999 FDS has only ONE water pump on/off switch, and it's located in the panel above the dinette along with electrical and tank volume (guess) gauges.

It never seems to fail that I need to wash my hands at the bathroom sink or the kitchen sink or the outdoor shower, and the blasted switch has been turned off!

My question: is there an easy way to wire in additional switches so that I can turn off and on from wherever I need to?
Thanks in advance,

Cajun John
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:17 PM   #2
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I ordered a remote kit I intend to try on mine along w/a coupla other parts that will add two On switch stations. It will take a slight rewire from the OEM switch setup (either one-switch or 2-three-way-switch versions on an Alpine) using a relay and the RF actuator. If it works I intend to assemble a parts kit w/instructions. I want a switch @ the vanity sink & one @ the utility bay, and think this package will do it easily w/out rewiring the 3-way pair of OEM switches (which is how the Intellitec pump relay usually works).
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Old 04-27-2010, 12:30 AM   #3
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I'd apprecoate any hekp you can give me; I'm a dentist ant nto very good with wiring; Have already losts about 5-6 of my 9 lifes! But diagrams, descriptions, sources, techniques I can certainly use.

Thansk! Cajun John
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I ordered a remote kit I intend to try on mine along w/a coupla other parts that will add two On switch stations. It will take a slight rewire from the OEM switch setup (either one-switch or 2-three-way-switch versions on an Alpine) using a relay and the RF actuator. If it works I intend to assemble a parts kit w/instructions. I want a switch @ the vanity sink & one @ the utility bay, and think this package will do it easily w/out rewiring the 3-way pair of OEM switches (which is how the Intellitec pump relay usually works).
Please keep me posted; my talentd son-in-law will be spending some time hjere, and he loves the projects i come up with for him to help me out! He' s gpoo old boy'1
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Thank the gods, WRV figured out that everyone needs a waterpump switch in the Utility bay, which our APEX has, plus one in the bathroom, and on the silver leaft system, so in effect I have three ways to turn off/on the pump.
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Old 04-28-2010, 05:49 AM   #6
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JT,

I can give you a schematic and instructions for as many switches you want. The hardest part will be to run the wires and fit the switches.
However, I prefer parallel single-pole, single-throw switches so you don't have to worry about 3-way wiring and switches. I find it easier to have all the switches be off when in the down position so a glance will tell you which is on.


Let me know.

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I WAS going to add this to our MH. IIRC this will run two or three switches using a single wire run.. The switches are momentary. Press on, press again and it is off. Turn the pump on in one location and off in another.

http://intellitec.com/PDF/5300145.000.pdf

Maybe someone can be the test case
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If you must run wires, I think installing additional switches in parallel is simpler, more reliable and less expensive. On a personal basis, I prefer to not add electronic devices unless it really simplifies things.

Now if someone finds an RF remote where the controller/receiver/master switch is powered from the battery and the senders are wireless, I could go for that.
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I WAS going to add this to our MH. IIRC this will run two or three switches using a single wire run.. The switches are momentary. Press on, press again and it is off. Turn the pump on in one location and off in another.

http://intellitec.com/PDF/5300145.000.pdf

Maybe someone can be the test case
The above controller is rated at 10 amps. I notice there is a 15 amp version of this controller which might be a better choice for the Shurflo 5.7 which is fused at 15 amps.
http://intellitec.com/pdfs/MOTOR%20C...300776.000.pdf

My 2006 Apex already has momentary switches in the bathroom and service bay which suggests it already has a controller or latching relay somewhere but I have never found it.
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I installed a set of fog lights on my truck that uses a remote switch similar to keyless entry. It works within 20'.

I just googled wireless 12vdc remote and found several listings both auto & marine.
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I think it is pretty well supported that the WRV wiring (excepting maybe the Apex wiring which sounds entirely different) does not meet the ShurFlo 15A spec, so adding a relay seems in order regardless if you have this pump. That's a fairly simple installation compared to rewiring the house switches to momentary (if you have a single switch that's probably easy to change to momentary tho the search for a matching switch may drive one to drink, which my wife says for me is a short drive). If you then add a secondary RF-actuated relay (wireless remote activated) for additional switches that can turn the pump on in any case, and turn its activation side off, you have a two part system of wireless remotes and the original house one or three way switch(es). If the house system is on, the pump is on. If the house is off you can turn pump on/off from the remote which you can locate anywhere within RF reach of the remote's receiver/relay.

This is the system I think rmmpe is fantasizing, tho I haven't got it in hand yet (I'm down in MX and heading back to gringolandia starting tomorrow, 3 day drive) to see the battery source. I'm assuming I can double tap that off the 15A+ wire from the battery to the main relay I installed to get full voltage to the pump, but have to see the unit to say for sure. I'm hoping that's how it is wired and not a battery powered relay which would be lousy for sure.
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Ohh Mikey, you have such a way with words.

Have a safe trip.
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The Intellitec relay was used by Fleetwood on a Southwind I had. It is a simple and very reliable system since only one wire has to be run to each switch, which may be a simple push button. The other side of the switch needs to go to ground. The only challenge is to run the wire to the switch. My 07 has a switch on the front panel and one in the toilet room. I would add one to the sanitary area because I always forget to turn offf the pump before filling the tank. The relay should be close to the pump so running a wire to the sanitary panel should be easy. An additional benefit of this system is an indicator light can be mounted near each switch with no additional wiring. We should be able to use an existing wire from the existing switches.
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