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Old 12-16-2011, 08:13 AM   #1
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2001 NATIONAL RV TRADEWINDS LTC Recall For Tires

Anyone out there with a 2001 Tradewinds LTC know about the RECALL for Tires.LINK 2001 NATIONAL RV TRADEWINDS LTC RECALL FOR TIRES PROBLEM #01V203000
This recall looks like the original tires on the Tradewinds LTC in 2001 were not rated for the correct front axle weight. If someone has had the recall work done what size tire did they use. The original tire size was 235/80R22.5 Load Range G. The Specification for the 2001 Tradewinds LTC front axle is 9,350 LBS and the recall indicates the FRONT AXLE WILL BE RE-RATED TO 10,410 LBS
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:07 AM   #2
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I believe all of NRV's 39' diesel models were recalled for being overweight on the front tires. We had a 2001 36' which was not recalled and NRV would not replace our front tires although ours was close to being overweight. I believe NRV installed 255/80 tires as replacements which are a taller tire.

For piece of mind, I replaced our front tires with 275/70 series tires which had a much higher weight rating than the 255s and were were almost exactly the same revs per mile as the 235/80 tires, just wider. The 275/70 tire has a weight rating of 6900+ lbs which allowed for a lower tire pressure for the weight of my front axle and better ride.
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:15 AM   #3
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I guess it would be the chassis manufacturer who would honor the recall. Can you even get a recall honored for National now that they are "tango uniform"?
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:18 AM   #4
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Ken,

My 7390 LTC still has the 235/80R22.5s on it and I am going to replace all the tire. Did you have any problems with the duals spacing with the 275/70R22.5? What brand of tire did you install and are you satisfied with them?
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:22 AM   #5
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Ramblin,

The Recall was for National. The FCCC chassis manufacturer shows no recall on my VIN number. So it's up to me to correct the over weight problem at my cost.
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My 7390 LTC still has the 235/80R22.5s on it and I am going to replace all the tire. Did you have any problems with the duals spacing with the 275/70R22.5? What brand of tire did you install and are you satisfied with them?
HRS, I only replaced the fronts on my 2001 with Toyo brand since the rears had ample load capacity. The Toyo model I purchased is no longer made, but the size may still be available from Toyo and is available on other brands. Our 2003 LTC is on a County Coach chassis and came with the same Toyo 275/70 tires that I put on the front of the 2001. I have since replaced with Michelin of the same size. I think that they are XZA2 series. They ride somewhat softer than the Toyo's did. No problem with duel spacing.
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Old 12-18-2011, 11:39 AM   #7
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Our 2001 LTC which we purchased new in Feb. 2002 had the Toyo tires on the front wheels and Michelin 235/80R22.5 on the rear. There was no change indicated on the weight capacity of front axle. However, the Neway IFS indicated it has a 10,000 pound weight rating. We replaced all the tires in 2007 with 255/80R22.5 XRV Michelin tires which we have liked (except for the price).
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MERRY CHRISTMAS, HRS,

We have a 2001 Tradewinds LTC 7390. I think we have the distinction of owning the motor home that forced National to use larger size front tires. Larry and Mary Claunch ordered it new in Oct. 2000. Unfortunately, Larry passed away in 2006 and we purchased the motor home from Mary in Oct. 2007. From copies of correspondence and what Mary told us, Larry was the one who forced the recall of the front tires with National RV. They replaced his two front tires with Toyo 265/75R-22.5. Two years later, before taking a trip to Alaska, he replaced the four rear tires with the same size Toyo as the front.

When we purchased the coach from Mary, she had four Micheleins that looked almost new in her garage, one in the bay (for a spare) and had given one to a friend for a spare.

In 2008 we replaced all six tires on our coach with Toyo 265/75R-22.5s and have been very pleased with them.

Just to let you know, Larry Claunch was a very technical person. We were amazed at the amount of technical literature he had accumulated in addition to the original literature that came with the motor home.

I hope this clears up any questions about the tire recall with National.
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My question about all of this is what did this do to the GVWR of the coach? I weighed my rig when I first got it and had less than 1/2 tank fuel,almost no propane and empty water and grey and black tanks and I was really close to the rated max weight of 26750.It is amazing just how fast you can load a big MH like this.I did pull the front TV and replace it with a flat screen,50# out 15# in,but I weighed a bunch of stuff in the bay that you really need,14' folding ladder,tool box,chairs and tables,wood blocks and plastic leveling blocks,sewer and air and water hoses,took the buffer out,75AMP charger with 15 and 30 amp extension cords and all of a sudden it was up about 250-300# just on that stuff.Throw some food and drinks in,all the dishes and utensils,rugs on the floor,house type pillow top mattress,20 gals of water in the fresh tank for traveling,full fuel and propane and you've got a load.Oh and don't forget momma's clothes.
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:17 AM   #10
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From what I can tell the Front GAW was 9,350 as shipped from NRV with the 235/80R 22.5. With the new tire size the Front GAW was up graded to 10,410. From what I can tell the Front axial on the 2001 Trade winds is rated at12,000. So the tires were the limiting factor in the original Front GAW rating as well as the upgraded rating. As for the rear axial I think that the hardware is rated at 20,000 and the tires are the limiting factor in it Rear GAW of 17,640.
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Ok,so now I read it to be that with the new tires,your total max weight would go up to about 27,500#..To make sure,I think that I'll call Freightliner help tomorrow and run that by them.Not that I want to put more stuff in the MH,but to feel a bit better about where I am now.
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Me again.. according to the tech at Freightliner the front axle rating is 10,500.Of course it's probably more for safety sake,but that's the way they usually do it.
So,according to the Michelin specs,the 235's are rated at 9350# at 110 # pressure for the fronts and 17640 dual on the rear.

The 255's are rated at 10,410# at 110# pressure on the front and 19,220# on the duals.

That would change to max weight up 1,060# on the front and and 1,580 on the rear for a total change of #2640# to 29,490#.. Mind you though that's at 110# pressure,so any less pressure,you'll be lowering your max total weight..
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:18 PM   #13
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I think that I am going to look at installing a higher load rated tire on my Tradewinds 7390 so I can have that higher rated GVW not so that I can put more things in the RV but so I have a margin of safety. With a 16 Ply tire that is rated ad 7000 LBs at 120 psi I can get the 10500 GAW at a lower psi and maybe it will give me a softer ride


psi 85 90 95 100 105 110 115 120

DUAL 4590 4815 5040 5270 5490 5720 5940 6395(H)
275/70R22.5
SINGLE 4920 5160 5400 5645 5880 6130 6365 7000(H)

I am looking at Firestone FS560 Plus in a 275/70R22.5 to replace my old 235/80R22.5s
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