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04-22-2013, 12:28 PM
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Coach leans to the right
I have a 2006 National Sea Breeze LX 8311. It has a considerable lean to the passenger side. There is about 8" between the tire & wheel well on the left side but only about 4" on the right side. It does not have air bags. Does anybody know what is causing this? Are the springs possibly bad on the one side?
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04-22-2013, 12:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpreeshl
I have a 2006 National Sea Breeze LX 8311. It has a considerable lean to the passenger side. There is about 8" between the tire & wheel well on the left side but only about 4" on the right side. It does not have air bags. Does anybody know what is causing this? Are the springs possibly bad on the one side?
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I have a 1999 33' Seabreeze. I had only about a 2" sag on right-front and less on the right-rear that was fixed by adding steel spacers between the bottom of the leaf spring and the axle on the front and rear. Had it done at a spring/suspension shop here in Las Vegas. There is some chatter about the Internet that many F-53 chassis' have this problem.
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04-22-2013, 12:58 PM
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One other possibility I've heard of is the rubber body mounts going bad/deteriating. If both did this on one side, you have that experience. Very easy to look at them to check. Otherwise, you probably need spring spacers.
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04-22-2013, 01:05 PM
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Unequal weight distribution may be an added contributor to the suspension problem. Have you weighed each wheel separately, Inspected undercarriage for leaky shock absorbers, Measured and compared the length of compressed springs and shocks. 
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04-22-2013, 06:01 PM
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Regular shocks have nothing to do with ride height. Damping only.
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04-22-2013, 10:00 PM
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We had the same problem. They put all the heavy appliances, and in our case propane on the right side. We had the springs 'bolstered' on that side. What we did not realize until later was they did not correct the alignment. Now, from front to back there is about a 2 inch difference. A place in Yuma told us the problem and in hindsight wish we had let them fix it. Now I notice truckers pulling trailers that have the same problem. Even noticed a school bus one time.
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04-22-2013, 10:15 PM
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My propane is on the right rear and my genny is on the left rear. I do have an unmounted spare on the left, but it is as far front as I can get it. Fridge and furnace are on the right and WH is on the left. Scales show it pretty well balanced with a 24k total, including 20' enclosed. Actual Gross Vehicle Weight = 18,720 lbs with full fluids.
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04-26-2013, 05:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpreeshl
I have a 2006 National Sea Breeze LX 8311. It has a considerable lean to the passenger side. There is about 8" between the tire & wheel well on the left side but only about 4" on the right side. It does not have air bags. Does anybody know what is causing this? Are the springs possibly bad on the one side?
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What is your chassis make and type?
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04-26-2013, 06:20 PM
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I have a 1311 on the F-53, so I'm going guess it is a WH chassis. My buddy has an `04 8321 LX on a WH chassis.
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04-27-2013, 07:51 AM
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Quote:
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what is your chassis make and type?
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wh - f53
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04-27-2013, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
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what is your chassis make and type?
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wh - f53
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It can't be both. WH = Workhorse. They have Chevy engines, eg; 454 cu. The F-53 Chassis is a Ford chassis, it has the 6.8L (415 cu) V-10 engine. Telling us which engine will tell us which chassis.
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04-27-2013, 09:19 AM
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I think the first step would be to get individual weights on each wheel. If a large imbalance is found, try to reload items to alleviate imbalance. If that doesn't help, then have suspension inspected and get recommendations. You don't just want to 'lift' the right side, it might cause handling problems.
Other idea: Perhaps was previously owned by a Tea Party member. Does it also turn right easier than left?  
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04-27-2013, 09:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clyon51
It can't be both. WH = Workhorse. They have Chevy engines, eg; 454 cu. The F-53 Chassis is a Ford chassis, it has the 6.8L (415 cu) V-10 engine. Telling us which engine will tell us which chassis.
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For sure and sometimes, the opposite rear spring can make things dip up front, but at this point, I don't know if we're dealing with a solid front axle on a Ford or WH W chassis, a chevy or P chassis independent front with coils (2005 should have seen these last of these, however) or some other animal... 
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04-27-2013, 10:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpreeshl
wh - f53
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 Ahhhhhhhh, what's it say on the steering wheel?
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