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Old 11-13-2013, 04:26 PM   #1
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2007 Phaeton help

We have a chance to get a 07 phantom 40 qsh wondering if any roof problem an how bad is rear radiator,,,
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Old 11-13-2013, 10:37 PM   #2
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There are a couple recent threads regarding side vs. rear radiator, suggest to use the search feature to find the threads.
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Old 11-14-2013, 05:02 AM   #3
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The 07's had a potential roof rail issue but Tiffin has been known to repair them at no cost. You may want to make sure they would do that for a second owner. But I bet they would.
We had ours checked a few months back and had no problem with ours.
And yep,, lots of views on the rear radiator. We obviously have one and have had no issues. I'm sure the cleaner air and the ease of getting to the engine for repairs are very valid points towards a side radiator. And if you wanted to put a motorcycle or even bikes on a lift on the year I'm sure I would feel better about the air flow on a side radiator but we don't so I enjoy the little extra storage I get by having a rear one.
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The 07's had a potential roof rail issue but Tiffin has been known to repair them at no cost. You may want to make sure they would do that for a second owner. But I bet they would. We had ours checked a few months back and had no problem with ours. And yep,, lots of views on the rear radiator. We obviously have one and have had no issues. I'm sure the cleaner air and the ease of getting to the engine for repairs are very valid points towards a side radiator. And if you wanted to put a motorcycle or even bikes on a lift on the year I'm sure I would feel better about the air flow on a side radiator but we don't so I enjoy the little extra storage I get by having a rear one.
i don't know what a roof rail issue is. I have an 07 phaeton. Can you explain?
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i don't know what a roof rail issue is. I have an 07 phaeton. Can you explain?
If the roof looks like this photo Tiffin has been replacing the fiberglass corners with aluminum. The 2007 you have may already been upgraded.


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To expand on what okgc posted, if the roof is one piece all the way around the radii at the edges, it is original and subject to cracking. If there are extra seams along the edge radii as shown in the photo below, then the corrective repairs have already been done. The edge radii of the fiberglass roof have been replaced by aluminum.

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Came up with roof rails, wet bay problems, front driverside slide leak.
Most may be fixed by Tiffin, and Bob Tiffin is great but you may need to make a trip to Red Bay.
Just me but I would not have a rear radiator. The side radiator is great, it took me about 1 min to change the serpentine belt plus you can see the motor just something to think about.
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For the Wet Bay issue, just look under the coach in front of the rear wheels to see if there's a sag in the floor.

Tiffin is generally good about fixing these issues even out of warranty (although we have 03 Phaeton with the wet bay issue and Tiffin will not replace it at their cost (they only pay to fix 04s and up). They told me it's 10 hours of labour + parts to have it done (plus the trip to RedBay, which I'm no where near, so I'm looking for someone local to do it). Also some might argue that they're not really even that generous; they are doing free repairs on a manufacturing defect but, as far as I know, didn't even issue a recall or notify owners that there's a problem - they only fix it when an owner notices it and complains about it.

As far as the rear rad, it's a personal choice. There's no doubt that service is easier with a side rad but side rad is typically more expensive (i.e. it might have changed over the years but I think all Allegro Buses & Zephyrs have side rad, Phaetons & Allegro RED have rear rad) also you do lose some storage with the side rad and it's a more complex system. Personally, I don't see it as a must have and there are tons of rear rad coaches.
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