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Old 03-03-2018, 05:46 AM   #1
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Allegro 36LA Weights

I am going back and forth with the Tiffin Allegro 36LA and Canyon Star 3710. I know the weights on the 3710, after everything was accounted for I would have approximately 3,000lbs of cargo capacity. I am looking for the weight sticker numbers for the 36LA on a 26K chassis. If anyone has a 36LA on the 26K chassis would either appreciate a picture of the weight sheet or a rundown of the numbers.

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Old 03-03-2018, 12:33 PM   #2
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On the Tiffin web site you get that info "tiffinmotorhomes.com/allegro" and page to the 36LA and click on spec sheet.
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What I am looking for is the Unloaded Vehicle Weight, which is not on the spec sheet. However, it is on the sheets they place in the closet. The Tiffin website gives you the axle weights, the GVWR and the GCWR. What is needed is the UVW to then calculate the Cargo Carrying Capacity. The Newmar site gives you that information, then I subtract out the weights of a tank of gas, water, propane, and people and what is left over is the CCC.
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Per the Tiffin website, they don't offer the 36LA on the 26,000 lb frame. Its on the 24,000 lb frame. ??
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Per the website you are correct. However it can be custom ordered that way, I have seen them on RVTrader but the pictures did not show the weight chart. There are posts on the Tiffin forum that explain that when the 34PA first came out it was on the 24K chassis but for somewhere around $2,500 you could upgrade to the 26K. I saw a 26K 36LA on Marlin Ingram's web site a few months ago but again they did not show the weight chart. I am still early in the process of purchasing (still researching) so when I get near the point of decision I will just call Tiffin and get the information.
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From my use of MH's weight and carrying capacity are the least of your problems. Check out after market suspension upgrades that help with sway, etc. Dave
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Except if youíre overweight and youíre in an accident, the opposing attorney will find out you were overweight and more importantly your insurance company will too and deny your claim.

Those who flaunt the ccc and drive overweight are on a high wire and most donít even know it.
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Iím sure you will get a response from someone with a 36 la. But I will give you my numbers on a 36ua. UVW on the sticker is 22350. My weight with full propane, full fuel, full fresh water, fully loaded for a trip and driver and passenger is 24300. I ordered my coach with a 26000 chassis and I am glad I did. I also added a Safe t steer and rear track bar, so that weight is included. A full tank of fresh water really loads up the passenger rear, but I do not normally travel with that. I highly recommend the 26000# chassis.
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Iím sure you will get a response from someone with a 36 la. But I will give you my numbers on a 36ua. UVW on the sticker is 22350. My weight with full propane, full fuel, full fresh water, fully loaded for a trip and driver and passenger is 24300. I ordered my coach with a 26000 chassis and I am glad I did. I also added a Safe t steer and rear track bar, so that weight is included. A full tank of fresh water really loads up the passenger rear, but I do not normally travel with that. I highly recommend the 26000# chassis.
Your weight is similar to the 34PA (which is what my wife likes, so that may be the direction we going). I calculated the weights for the 34PA and we have about 1300lbs left over for cargo after people, water, gas, propane, options, tongue weight, and compensating for the dolly and toad. Plan on ordering with Summo springs and adding Safe-T-Steer and some sort of track bar as well.
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Except if youíre overweight and youíre in an accident, the opposing attorney will find out you were overweight and more importantly your insurance company will too and deny your claim.

Those who flaunt the ccc and drive overweight are on a high wire and most donít even know it.
Lol they are going to weigh a smashed up rv? I'm sure every passenger vehicle gets weighed after an accident
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While seeing the weights for a 26k 36LA is exactly what you want to see, the weights on a 24k 26LA would also be directly relevant, as the only difference between the two is the fact the 26k rear axle springs are rated for 17,500# vs. 15,500#s on the 24k. They both sit on the exact same 17.5k rated rear axle, and the only difference in weight in the Ford chassis UVW is something like 10#.

So the weights of a 24k 36LA will simply have a CCC 2k less (all of which happens to be on the rear axle) vs. a 26k equipped the same way. Yes, the heavier rear springs will have some effect on the f/r weight distribution but that's kind of splitting hairs at this point.

Just as a side note, the Ford 24k chassis is completely different than the 22k, including the fact the raw Ford 24k chassis itself weighs ~500#s more than the same wheelbase 22k, so the net increase in CCC is only ~1,500#s, not 2k.

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Just an observation..per the Tiffin brochure and the 2018 F53 Super Duty Chassis spec the "towed" vehicle weight for the 36LA is 6k lbs vs. 4k lbs for the 34PA and 36UA. Which stands to reason since the GCWR for all three is 30k lbs so you take away from the towed vehicle what you add in spring capacity.

Of course, a trip to the scales will help fine tune those numbers.
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I am trying to get as much as information as possible regarding the 36LA and the 34PA as possible to make an informed decision. I can certainly make inferences based upon different pieces of data, eventually I will contact Tiffin and get the information directly from the experts. Currently I am looking at ordering a 2020 model since I will not be fully retired until January 2020 and will order and time the pick up of RV with my retirement.


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Just adding a bit of clarification to ensure everyone is on the same page in this....

On the Tiffin gassers (and as I recall most "recent" F53 coaches), you have a 5k rated hitch.

So the 5k rated hitch actually limits the 24k/30k chassis to a useable 24k GVW + 5k for towing, for an effective combined max weight limit of 29k.

On the 26k/30k, you can of course limit yourself to 25k GVW and then pull 5k, or other appropriate weight combinations, and stay within the chassis / hitch weight ratings.

And just to reiterate for others that are not familiar with the 24k/30k and 26k/30k chassis that may come across this, they are exactly the same except for the rear spring ratings for the given wheelbase. Yes, same rear axle, same gear ratios, same brakes, etc.

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