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10-02-2017, 06:29 PM
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Cycle lift on phateon ?
[Hi folks
Has anyone installed a cycle lift on their phateon ? I was considering it but the manual say it's not really recommended
Any input would be helpful ...
Thanks
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10-02-2017, 07:21 PM
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I have seen that I believe, 3 times,with a pass through 10K hitch. Raises up to let the hitch pick up the toad.
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10-02-2017, 10:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by owr
[Hi folks
Has anyone installed a cycle lift on their phateon ? I was considering it but the manual say it's not really recommended
Any input would be helpful ...
Thanks
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A lift is not recommended on any motor home without a tag axle. You can easily overload the rear axle and make the front end too light with the weight of the lift and bike.
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10-02-2017, 10:10 PM
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When the frame is tied with 6 inch pipe, instead of 6 inch "L" steel, then come talk to me. Bobcat and GM have learned this to a certain extent.
If one can not twist a 6 inch pipe, one can not twist a frame.
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2006 Fleetwood Bounder 35E Trek pure Trike, electric, 50 mile range, 7000 ,miles the get everything runner. To be toad list Done, Ford E450 toad. Stay & Play active brakes.
Full-time since 2018. LG 4.5 cu ft washer/dryer.
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10-03-2017, 01:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trx430ex
When the frame is tied with 6 inch pipe, instead of 6 inch "L" steel, then come talk to me. Bobcat and GM have learned this to a certain extent.
If one can not twist a 6 inch pipe, one can not twist a frame.
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I believe Lt Dan said "axle", not "frame".
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10-03-2017, 09:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt Dan
A lift is not recommended on any motor home without a tag axle. You can easily overload the rear axle and make the front end too light with the weight of the lift and bike.
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I do apologize Lt Dan for the frosty response, I seemed to run right off the rails there instead of doing the math.
Let go back to basics, I would weigh the coach, run those numbers past stock sticker. Then install one of those little carriers in the hitch, load it up with a 1000 pounds. Then take it back to the scales again & see what the numbers show us.
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Full-time since 2018. LG 4.5 cu ft washer/dryer.
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10-03-2017, 01:08 PM
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On my 2003 40' Phaeton, I had a cycle carrier. It was a fixed unit made by Blue Ox with a ramp to roll the bike up from the passenger side. I added a removable winch to the drivers side that my wife would run while I balanced the 1000# bike into position. I then built an extension to the receiver to tow a Chrysler mini-van. I had my brother-in-law do the math with the stress on the frame extension before I attempted it. The result was a good riding and handling coach, however, the rear tires were at their limit. I contacted Bob Tiffin with my problem and suggested that on 2004, they started installing the larger 275/80 R22.5 tires and would he help me out. He agreed to pay for 50% of the cost for six new 275 tires at the place of my choice. After that we went all over carrying the bike and towing the van, till we tired of taking it along. I still have the carrier, ramp and winch, but no longer have a motorcycle.
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