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Old 05-30-2014, 05:13 AM   #1
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Factory installed surge protection system on 2012 allegro 36la

Can anyone confirm if this is what's in their coach?
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Yep, That's what is in my 2012 34TGA. 50 amp surge guard.
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Thanks jjm! And it's this 40250 model?
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And you should also know that it provides minimal protection. I would recommend you also install a Progressive Industries HW50C or it's portable equivalent.
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:58 AM   #5
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And you should also know that it provides minimal protection. I would recommend you also install a Progressive Industries HW50C or it's portable equivalent.

Luvlabs, if it is the 40250, that is enough protection.. Did you read the specs on the 40250?

Still waiting for someone to chime in and tell me which model is factory installed in their Tiffin.
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Tiffin installs the TRC 41260 model - hence the recommendation to add the Progressive Industries EMS system as well.

The 40260 has nice features at a tremendous price. $700 is a bit steep when compared to the 41260 + PI HW50C coming in at just over $500. With the almost certain fact that you will have to replace the transfer switch at some point and the PI system having a lifetime guarantee, the 40260 just doesn't make any sense.

This was discussed over at the tiffinrvnetwork.com some time ago.
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Old 05-31-2014, 06:20 AM   #7
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Thanks luvlabs.. I have to agree with you. Disappointing that would Tiffin bother adding this cost (41260 model) for something that doesn't address real needs.
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Our Allegro RED 34 has gone through two (2) transfer switches in less than a year.
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Our Allegro RED 34 has gone through two (2) transfer switches in less than a year.

Davcor, are you using another surge/power protection system in front of the factory installed transfer switch?
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RKH,
No, just the manufacture installed unit. That said, I have thought of doing just that. What's your opinion on the subject?
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Davcor, you need to get additional protection for the incoming shore power. There are two brands I see discussed here more often.
Surge guard by TRC sold at camping world or amazon or etc., and Progressive EmS models. The both come in portable and hard wired options. There is even a replacement transfer switch that has more advance protection but that is very pricey I think.
I've been using Surge Guard for 4 years now and have never experienced damage from external power. It has detected low voltage situations numerous times. The surge/power protection you need must cover miswired power posts, high and low voltages, plus surges.
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...ge-guard/69523

This one is hard wired and was able to install it very easily. It can lay right next to the transfer switch and you don't have to worry about it being stolen.
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RKH,
We tried that before we lost our second Transfer Switch, and were told by the gent that replaced it at Dixie RV, in Hammond, LA that the failure could be cause by to having two surge protectors fighting each other. I find this hard to believe, but we chose to leave the Surge Guard off. The the inverter blew, and we were told that you should not have the inverter on when plugged into shore power. Again, this is counter to what I've read and understand. The manual states, DO NOT run engine while putting down or bring up the jacks. My jacks would not fully retract. Solution given by a Tiffin mech at Myers RV, Albuquerque, NM: run engine at high idle to get full 14.2 charging volts to the batteries. Tried it and it worked. So who knows what where and when. We had so many problems, mainly electrical, that we chose to trade for a 38QRA at Myers. Got 48 miles out of town when the power steer holding tank behind the radiator began leaking. We have driven back and forth to the Freightliner facility here in Albuquerque four times, put 400 miles on the new coach, and we are STILL here. New tank put on yesterday, after attempts made with tightening, and new seals, so we hope to get out of here today.
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DaveCor,

Boy, have you been getting some bad advice from people who should know better. If you haven't done so already, get yourself signed up on http://tiffinrvnetwork.com. This is the premier site for Tiffin owners who are more than happy to help you through your issues.

First off, put your surge protector back on. There is no such thing as surge protectors fighting each other. Baloney.

Second, turn the invertor back on. It powers your fridge (if you have a residential fridge) while you are driving down the road. When you are on shore power, it is automatically bypassed. (We have never turned ours off, BTW, and we live fulltime in our rig.)

I raise and lower my jacks with the engine running or plugged into shorepower. Yes, it takes a bit of power to run electric slides and hydraulic slides/jacks and it is a significant draw on the batteries.

Freightliner is a different problem altogether and I hope they get that fixed fast. For your Tiffin issues, I would call Don Boyd (warranty service) and ask him if there is someplace along your route that you can stop and get things checked out.
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Thanks for the good advice. We did get out of Albuquerque yesterday, now in Raton, NM. Today's challenge is the Raton Pass, which I just found out is six miles of climbing. Oh boy! Sure hope this 340 Cummins will push us up with out problems. The 38QRA is a pretty big coach for a 340. Some how I never thought of having to climb six miles, we just don't have that sort of thing on the East Coast.
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