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01-21-2013, 06:28 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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I Need Your Opinion
I am looking at a 2008 34tga w/ cummins 300. I have been told (by a salesman) to avoid the front engine diesels. What do ya'll have to say about them?
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01-21-2013, 07:16 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Apparently said by a salesman that has no front engine diesels to sell. I have never owned one but have read many good reports from those that do. You may wish to wander over to www.Tiffinrvnetwork.com and ask same question there.
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01-21-2013, 07:28 PM
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With the engine up front, it will be a little noisier when on the road.
ken
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01-22-2013, 05:16 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Wisconsin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NotNow
I am looking at a 2008 34tga w/ cummins 300. I have been told (by a salesman) to avoid the front engine diesels. What do ya'll have to say about them?
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Question: How can you tell when a salesman is lying?
Answer: His lips are moving.
Sorry. Couldn’t resist.
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01-22-2013, 06:03 AM
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Front engine diesels have never been successful. Maybe it's the noise, and several manufacturers have tried them, but they haven't sold well and were discontinued.
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01-22-2013, 06:17 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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That means you can DEAL on them if you want it because of the floor plan, etc
but if you think about it...
What about all the many diesel pickup trucks and 18 wheelers that have their diesels up front and they seem to be selling ,,,,
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01-22-2013, 06:25 AM
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I've never owned a FRED, but I would think the main disadvantages would be the same as a gasser: Mid-entry door, front engine hump, noise and heat. Maybe more noise than a gasser. If you can live with that, I think they'd be great.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH
2006 Jeep Commander
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01-22-2013, 08:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topdownman
I've never owned a FRED, but I would think the main disadvantages would be the same as a gasser: Mid-entry door, front engine hump, noise and heat. Maybe more noise than a gasser. If you can live with that, I think they'd be great.
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I have one. Love it. 1/3 the noise of gas. Heavier front, better ride than gas. And a ton less $ than a DP.
Each to their own!
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01-22-2013, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CampDaven
I have one. Love it. 1/3 the noise of gas. Heavier front, better ride than gas. And a ton less $ than a DP.
Each to their own!
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Must mention 11 mpg (honest!) with Wrangler toad, and just begining break in. Only 14k miles so far. :grin:
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01-22-2013, 08:01 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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There have been a couple good threads here regarding FREDs - a search would find them. Like everything pros and cons. I've owned a Safari with FRED. Like a gasser only much better fuel mileage. But also higher maintenance costs.
My current coach I selected as a gasser due to current needs and usage. Next coach will be at retirement and will probably be a Diesel as then needs and usage will have changed. That diesel could be either a pusher or a FRED.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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01-26-2013, 07:11 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Nor'easters Club
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I've had my Fred for 4+ years and love it. Quieter then a gasser but of course not as quiet as a DP. A lot cheaper!!!!!!!!! BTW When you park it at a campground, all motorhomes sound the same!
Dan
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02-04-2013, 05:44 PM
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The Freds have had a brake recall as of late. Make sure it's been done (although I believe the notices may not even gone out yet), it's a Feightliner recall.
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02-08-2013, 03:56 PM
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Junior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
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Location: Livingston, TX
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FREDs. . . Why they were discontinued
Prior to the year 2010 EPA changes to using DEF on the diesel engines, the FREDs were selling like hot-cakes. The challenge of installing a DEF system into a front-engine Cummins proved to be an un-ecomonical challenge and they were discontinued. As always, oRV
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2010 Phaeton 2011 Honda CR-V Toad
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02-08-2013, 04:20 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Usually no air suspension and no or not much passthrough storage due to the long driveshaft.
Cheaper to buy and MAYBE to maintain.
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