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07-15-2017, 09:32 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,749
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Originally Posted by flywithcoop
I just don't understand all the hype about the chassis mods to help driving a MH. I have owned a Winnie and a Tiffin both had stock F53 chassis and drove just fine. We average around 300 miles a day(6 or 7 hours) when traveling and are not exhausted or fatigued by the drive. We like to stop and see the local sights. Maybe if you are doing a 12 hour non stop day of driving these mods are needed.
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Glad you have a positive experience with stock configuration. We had a F53. Was very tiring to drive due to constant steering correction needed. And felt unsafe over 60 mph. CHF and front stabilizer improved somewhat, but the fix was a rear track bar.
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Vince and Susan
2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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07-17-2017, 02:45 PM
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#16
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,119
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vsheetz
Glad you have a positive experience with stock configuration. We had a F53. Was very tiring to drive due to constant steering correction needed. And felt unsafe over 60 mph. CHF and front stabilizer improved somewhat, but the fix was a rear track bar.
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I have had my 2014 Tiffin 36LA up to 80mph on the interstate downhill of course. I have to be careful to keep it below 70 because it drives so smoothly. The old winnebago sounded like it was falling apart at 70mph. Both on the F53 chassis without any aftermarket mods. They were both a little over 36 feet long and towing Jeep Grand Cherokees. Maybe the length keeps them from wandering all over the road and needing constant corrective steering.
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DAV and Good Sam Lifetime Members
2014 Allegro Open Road 36LA/2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee/2018 Cherokee Trailhawk
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07-25-2017, 06:30 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 138
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Safety plus
Just installed on my 2017 31sa tiffin last Friday .went to tunica sat 550 miles round trip. Worth the 550 night an day.
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07-25-2017, 09:48 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Foley, AL
Posts: 1,093
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Welcome to the safe-side! Glad to have ya! [emoji122][emoji122][emoji106]
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Les & Pam Warden
(Tiffin) 2017 Phaeton 40QBH; 2023 Wayfarer 25RW (coming soon)
2016 Jeep JKUS with Ready Brute Elite towbar
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07-26-2017, 07:43 AM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Chattanooga, TN.
Posts: 58
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I could not believe the difference in steering control after I installed the safe-t plus on my 2004 Allegro Bay 36 on a Workhorse chassis.
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Old Bob, Navarre, Florida
2013 Allegro Open Road 32
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07-27-2017, 06:04 PM
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Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 58
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Installed Safe T Plus on my 2011 Tiffin 34TGA (F53 V-10 Ford chassis) last October. In city driving, no change. On highway at 60-65mph speeds, MAGIC! Go get ya one of these!
Just FYI, my STP is white. They make various colors for varying applications, be sure they get the right one. Word is one color has been replaced as outdated.
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07-27-2017, 06:32 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club National RV Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: St. Charles MO
Posts: 4,920
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Red, White and Blue aren't they? For different chassis why would one be out dated?
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2002 Monaco Windsor 40PST 2019 Equinox 1.5L, Blue OX Aventa LX tow bar, Roadmaster EZ5 baseplate, SMI Stay-In-Play Duo, TireSafeGuard TPMS
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07-28-2017, 04:35 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Roanoke IN
Posts: 2
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I had one installed on my 09' Phaeton and it made a world of difference. I can ride down the road with one hand, and don't have to worry about big trucks pushing me around! In my opinion, it was well worth the money
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07-28-2017, 06:23 AM
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Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 58
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Reply to tmw188
There used to be a beige colored Safe T Plus, I believe. The dealer who installed my white unit told me "a unit" had been discontinued, which I assumed to be the beige one. In hindsight, I don't know if he was referring to the unit itself being discontinued, which was my assumption, or the beige paint job was discontinued in favor of white paint with no change to the actual device.
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07-28-2017, 07:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 380
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Get the toe-in checked first. If you don't have any, your coach will wander all over the place. If it still does after confirming you do have adequate toe-in, then by all means, get the Safe T Plus.
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07-29-2017, 06:05 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Appalachian Campers Mid Atlantic Campers Coastal Campers Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2015
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I was actually quite skeptical as to how a safe-t-plus could possibly improve handling, given that there is a worm gear steering box and there's no 'play' in my steering.
But we had a 6K trip planned this year and I knew my wife would be driving a portion of it, so figured I'd put it on just for the potential tire blow out claims. Figured it couldn't hurt, and whether it helped during a blow out who knows....but I'd least I'd have peace of mind that I did everything I could have done. I made the decision to install, regardless of whether I'd ever see any tangible benefit.
So I put it on last fall (easy install), and am quite frankly surprised at the improvement. Made a believer out of skeptical me, I'll always have one on any future coach I may ever get.
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2015 Tiffin RED 33AA, w/Honda CRV
VMSpc, Magnum BMK/ARC50
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07-29-2017, 06:44 AM
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Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 40
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2017 32sa
Installed ours a month back while on alignment rack. It took about three tries to get a true return to dead center and lock it down. I feel less tired after driving; a lot less wander and rut climbing on older roads. Well worth the money.
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07-29-2017, 07:08 AM
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Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 72
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STP
We added the Safety Plus with the Henderson Super steer trim unit and the results are wonderful. When you change direction of travel or the wind changes, just hit the switch for a few seconds, center the coach in your lane and release the switch, it is that easy. I feel it is the best Mod I have done to our coach.
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Droski
2021 F250 PowerStroke
2022 Arctic Fox 27-5L
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08-01-2017, 07:33 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Hamilton, Ohio
Posts: 155
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Safe-t-plus
All- what is the charge to have them installed?
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