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Old 10-23-2017, 09:34 PM   #1
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Tow Bar vs Hitch Weight

Can anybody help me understand how a tow bar(Roadmaster Falcon) hitch weight compare to a regular ball hitch in calculating hitch weight? I'm trying to calculate the actual GCVW with a vehicle attached to the RV,
Thanks for the help.
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The hitch weight is the weight exerted on the receiver. The weight of the vehicle being towed has nothing to do with it. The weight of the towed vehicle
Cannot exceed the rated limit for the hitch/towing vehicle. Most are 5000 lb but the larger rigs can tow 10,000 lbs.

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Hitch weight with a tow bar on it is only a few to several pounds. Not enough to matter.
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As Vince said, the towbar doesn't amount to much. Amazon lists its weight as 50 pounds.

Most people don't know their loaded coach and toad weights, especially to within plus or minus 50 pounds.

I see by the Tifiin brochure your coach has a GWVR of 22.000 pounds and a GCWR of 26,000 pounds. If the coach is loaded to the GVWR (i.e., GVW = GVWR), you can only tow 4,000 pounds. That sets the maximum toad weight at 3,950 pounds.

According to the brochure, the hitch is rated for 5,000 pounds. In theory, you can "under-load" the coach by 1,000 pounds and tow a 4,950 pound toad. I say "in theory" because it'd be up to you to keep the coach weight under 21,000 pounds and toad weight under 4,950 pounds.

Note: Vehicles are often heavier than their published curb weights.

This all assumes four-down towing of a toad. Other factors come into play when towing a trailer.
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I have the Falcon II and it adds very little weight, maybe 25# or so. If it is level then half the weight of the arms and the weight of the part that connects to the receiver.
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Note: Vehicles are often heavier than their published curb weights
That statement could not be more true in the USA, don't trust stickers. Load up your coach, and then go weigh it. Get the real numbers and adjust accordingly.
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Dugan-

As Vince said, the towbar doesn't amount to much. Amazon lists its weight as 50 pounds.

Most people don't know their loaded coach and toad weights, especially to within plus or minus 50 pounds.

I see by the Tifiin brochure your coach has a GWVR of 22.000 pounds and a GCWR of 26,000 pounds. If the coach is loaded to the GVWR (i.e., GVW = GVWR), you can only tow 4,000 pounds. That sets the maximum toad weight at 3,950 pounds.

According to the brochure, the hitch is rated for 5,000 pounds. In theory, you can "under-load" the coach by 1,000 pounds and tow a 4,950 pound toad. I say "in theory" because it'd be up to you to keep the coach weight under 21,000 pounds and toad weight under 4,950 pounds.

Note: Vehicles are often heavier than their published curb weights.

This all assumes four-down towing of a toad. Other factors come into play when towing a trailer.
Thanks for the information. You answer was what I was looking for. My question was confusing on what I was after. Basically I wanted to know if you added the weight on the hitch or the weight of the towed vehicle. Your answer gave me the info I needed. Everybody's help was appreciated.
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