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Old 10-25-2014, 02:47 PM   #15
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Hi and thanks everyone. Its a 1996 fleetwood bounder 32ft. Havent found a inverter yet, found the converter in a underfloor compartment.
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It could be a tripped GFI.
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Old 10-25-2014, 04:32 PM   #16
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Hi, would I have lights on 12 v if I didnt have a inverter. Havent found the inverter yet, will look under the hood near the batteres come morning.
There are 3 possible configurations

Basic: Only a converter.. This converts 120vac to 12 v, also charges the battery, battery runs the lights if no shore power (120vac)

Better:Add a small inverter which powers the TV and related stuff (Sat Receiver, Radio, DVR/VCR), Charge batteries with the converter as above.

Best: A much bigger Inverter/charger, this is basically the electronics part of a UPS on steroids. (more on that in a bit) the remaining part of the UPS being your house batteries. These BIG inverters can power your TV, Microwave and more. mine is 2,000 watts, they also contain the converter/charger section to recharge the batteries and provide 12 volt for lights et-al

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My rig came with a converter, one of the best made, I installed (After market) an inverter/charger.. I like the converter's programming better for battery maintenance so I use it with the inverter as a back up for when the Factory box fails (The factory unit is a plug in model, plugs into a socket, and occasionally some idiot pulls the plug And when he figures it out (usually around 3-am) I... er, He just turns on the back up unit and goes back to bed and plugs it back in the daylight).

But you likely do have a converter..

Converters come in different flavors as well.. Some folks still have a Magnetek 6300 battery killer

Some have Parallex 7300s (Single stage, They are not exactly bad but I'd not call em good either)

Some.. Well I have a Progressive Dynamics 9180 with charge wizard. (Charge wizard units are best) Iota IQ-4 a real, real, tight second (for most users tied for 1st). My Inverter is the real 2nd in my book (also a 3-stage plus one feature but I like the Charge Wizard's Plus better).

So your converter matters. (to the battery)
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Old 10-26-2014, 02:58 PM   #17
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If you had an inverter, it would most likely be mounted near your battery control center. If you don't have one, the outlets and tv will only work off of shore power or gen power. To answer your other question, yes you can have 12 volt lights without an inverter. If you don't have an inverter, you will have a converter. You can most certainly add an inverter to power your tv system and maybe a couple select outlets. If my rig didn't come with an inverter, I would change the converter over to an inverter/charger.
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Thanks everone. I guess I dont have an inverter, so I use a small inverter that I plug into the dash.
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On a 1996 anything you would have a big TV powered by AC. Your lights are normally all 12V DC similar bulbs to what the automotive industry uses. The same thing for your water pump, small fans and the controls for the refrigerator and similar. Your high power draw items like the TV, microwave, and Air Conditioner draw too much power to run off DC with a reasonable battery system.

Rough approximations of power usage are to divide the wattage by 100 to get the AC current. More to the point divide by 10 to get the approximate DC current to feed and inverter to make 120 VAC from 12 VDC. As an example a 1200 W Microwave would draw roughly 120 A DC from the battery to feed an inverter. Maybe you can do it for a hot cup of water but you will need a lot of battery to do roughly the same load in an Air Conditioner that runs for hours. Your TV will raw somewhere around 300 W or 30 A DC.

You have two sets of batteries. The Chassis battery set is one or two starting batteries that are designed to put out a high current for a short time to start the engine. The House battery set is 1 to 8 deep cycle batteries designed to put out less current for a longer time to feed loads like lights and fans. You may have several 12 V batteries in parallel or 6 V batteries connected in series strings of 2 to make 12V and then the strings connected in parallel. Tell us how many house batteries you have and we can give you more information.

One caveat with advice here. You have folks with 8 deep cycle batteries in their DP running high wattage inverters to get all the comforts of home. You also have folks with 1 marine deep cycle starting battery that keeps the lights on. Most of us fall somewhere in between. Depending what you have and who put in the power management system the expectations can be quite different due to the battery capacity. Charging voltages will be the same. Inverter capacity and the size of your 12 VDC converter/charger will vary with battery size. Inverter capacity is proportional to available DC power from the battery and/or converter. It would be time well spent to search for flooded cell lead acid battery charging. You may or may not follow all the details but you will get a sense of what is normal for maintaining and checking the batteries in your unit.
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Welcome to the world of rv's before you spend a lot of money on any type of inverter I'd suggest you do some more research. The small inverters that plug into the dash will probably only produce enough power to charge a cell phone. Most dash twelve volt outlets are powered by the coach battery and will discharge your start battery. There are also different types of inverters modified sine wave and pure sine wave. Save yourself some money by finding what you plan to use the power for and witch inverter will work best for your needs, there is a big difference in price.
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My bad I ment to say the outlet runs off the chassis battery not the coach.
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Hi and thanks everyone. Its a 1996 fleetwood bounder 32ft. Havent found a inverter yet, found the converter in a underfloor compartment.
Thanks for the info
I just found this posting. As I look over what's written it isn't clear that the Original Poster has said enough to clarify the situation but I'm guessing that the advice to read up on electrical systems is the best advice.

If the OP is clear on the basics like which of his systems that normally use 12 v and which that normally use 110 aren't working it might help straighten this out. If the OP thinks that some appliances like TV's (that off the shelf are almost always 110) will work on 12v only then that needs explained.

If there's still basic confusion what is 12 and what is 110 then the inverter comments are a little premature....too advanced in the discussion.

Just my observation FWIW.
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Hi and thanks everyone. Its a 1996 fleetwood bounder 32ft. Havent found a inverter yet, found the converter in a underfloor compartment.
Thanks for the info
I just found this posting. As I look over what's written it isn't clear that the Original Poster has said enough to clarify the situation but I'm guessing that the advice to read up on electrical systems is the best advice.

If the OP is clear on the basics like which of his systems that normally use 12 v and which that normally use 110 aren't working it might help straighten this out. If the OP thinks that some appliances like TV's (that off the shelf are almost always 110) will work on 12v only then that needs explained.

If there's still basic confusion what is 12 and what is 110 then the inverter comments are a little premature....too advanced in the discussion.

Just my observation FWIW.
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