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06-19-2017, 05:39 PM
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99 Bounder A/C
I have a 99 Bounder 34V with 2 roof a/c and one furnace .
There is an issue with the two a/c.
the compressors wont engage with shore power they only run the blowers , if I start the generator both a/c will work normally . is any thing to check?
thanks all.
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06-19-2017, 05:55 PM
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Maybe there is a low voltage problem with the shore power. I would check that first.
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06-19-2017, 06:23 PM
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If this is a 30 amp MH, you may not be able to run both.
The generator output ( 5500 watts about 45 amps ) is split.
There are 2 breakers, one 30 amp and a second at 15 or 20 amps. The second one runs the second AC.
While on shore power you only have 30 amps. That's not enough power for 2 ACs and the other house loads, so they give you a choice of which AC to run.
If neither compressor is running, the control that chooses which one you want to run may be bad.
There are ways to rewire for 50 amp service and run everything.
A second option is to wire in a seperate 20 amp line to plug into the power post.
Of course, you need some electrical experence to do this.
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06-19-2017, 06:33 PM
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What your intellitec ECC doing? Is it load shedding (lights flashing)? If you start one A/C at a time do they work (on shore power)? Check the incoming voltage level with a volt meter. Should be about 115 +-5 volts.
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06-19-2017, 07:19 PM
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Both a/c runs together either ways - it is a 50 amps -
the a/c control is Intellitec and also the thermostat.
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06-20-2017, 10:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrwrench
Both a/c runs together either ways - it is a 50 amps -
the a/c control is Intellitec and also the thermostat.
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The '99 Bounder 34V was NOT a 50amp coach when new. If it is currently a 50amp coach, then someone modified it and there is no assurance that the Intellitec ECC system is still effective or even wired correctly.
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06-20-2017, 06:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Bounder
The '99 Bounder 34V was NOT a 50amp coach when new. If it is currently a 50amp coach, then someone modified it and there is no assurance that the Intellitec ECC system is still effective or even wired correctly.
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nobody modified , it is a duct system and both a/c are designated to run together.
I got an email from Intellitec and think the ECC maybe faulty.
thanks
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06-21-2017, 03:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrwrench
nobody modified , it is a duct system and both a/c are designated to run together.
I got an email from Intellitec and think the ECC maybe faulty.
thanks
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Bounder (Fleetwood) used that exact system from 1996 through the mid 2000s. It is designed to provide the ability to run BOTH air conditioners on a 30amp system. Being a ducted system has nothing to do with the Intellitec ECC system.
I agree that a component of the ECC system may be at fault, but NOT the whole system. If the whole ECC was bad, the units would not run on generator either.
This manual explains how the system is wired AND how it operates.
Note the last paragraph on page (1) one.
Run the test on page (4) four
Your system is depicted on page (9) nine.
You will find the ECC controller and Relay Delay (small transfer switch) behind the wooden panel beside the main power panel.
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06-23-2017, 10:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Bounder
Bounder (Fleetwood) used that exact system from 1996 through the mid 2000s. It is designed to provide the ability to run BOTH air conditioners on a 30amp system. Being a ducted system has nothing to do with the Intellitec ECC system.
I agree that a component of the ECC system may be at fault, but NOT the whole system. If the whole ECC was bad, the units would not run on generator either.
This manual explains how the system is wired AND how it operates.
Note the last paragraph on page (1) one.
Run the test on page (4) four
Your system is depicted on page (9) nine.
You will find the ECC controller and Relay Delay (small transfer switch) behind the wooden panel beside the main power panel.
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Thanks a lot.
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12-14-2017, 04:17 PM
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the Intellitec control make a rattle sound when the kitchen double florescent light is on.
Any ideas?
thanks
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12-14-2017, 04:38 PM
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The only thing I can think of that they have in common would be 12v power. I would check the power with a volt meter. First with the light off and then with the light on. The ECC does have some relays that could be chattering.
or maybe the delay switch is making some noise.
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12-14-2017, 04:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrwrench
Both a/c runs together either ways - it is a 50 amps -
the a/c control is Intellitec and also the thermostat.
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Could you post a picture of the plug you use plug into shore power?
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12-19-2017, 02:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrt_1111
Could you post a picture of the plug you use plug into shore power?
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I think it's a 30amps
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12-19-2017, 04:18 PM
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Me too
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