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07-26-2006, 12:46 PM
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Interesting article. Full text at this link
"Two lawsuits in Los Angeles Superior Court reveal that Fleetwood allegedly misrepresented the towing capacity on many of its 2005 and 2006 motorhomes by 5,000 pounts..."
"...companies like FLEETWOOD persuade consumers to part with large six-figure sums not just based on buying a particular vehicle, but also on buying the whole supposed lifestyle that goes along with it...
...FLEETWOOD's 2005 and 2006 Providence, Discovery, Excursion, Expedition and Bounder Class A RV's all were sold to consumers with a sticker advertising a towing weight capacity of 10,000 lbs....
...Now, suddenly, FLEETWOOD has issued a "recall", telling consumers that the 10,000 lbs. towing capacity was a mistake and offering a new sticker, to be placed over the old sticker, indicating a tow limit of only 5,000 lbs.
"This is not a recall; it's a cover-up," comments prominent consumer protection attorney Robert F. Brennan ... "A recall is used where the manufacturer can do something to fix the problem. Putting a sticker on the RV, stating that it now has one-half of the towing capacity that was represented when it was sold, is more of a fraud than a fix."
Brennan's firm represents two consumers who have RV's covered by the supposed 'recall'."
Mac
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07-26-2006, 12:46 PM
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Interesting article. Full text at this link
"Two lawsuits in Los Angeles Superior Court reveal that Fleetwood allegedly misrepresented the towing capacity on many of its 2005 and 2006 motorhomes by 5,000 pounts..."
"...companies like FLEETWOOD persuade consumers to part with large six-figure sums not just based on buying a particular vehicle, but also on buying the whole supposed lifestyle that goes along with it...
...FLEETWOOD's 2005 and 2006 Providence, Discovery, Excursion, Expedition and Bounder Class A RV's all were sold to consumers with a sticker advertising a towing weight capacity of 10,000 lbs....
...Now, suddenly, FLEETWOOD has issued a "recall", telling consumers that the 10,000 lbs. towing capacity was a mistake and offering a new sticker, to be placed over the old sticker, indicating a tow limit of only 5,000 lbs.
"This is not a recall; it's a cover-up," comments prominent consumer protection attorney Robert F. Brennan ... "A recall is used where the manufacturer can do something to fix the problem. Putting a sticker on the RV, stating that it now has one-half of the towing capacity that was represented when it was sold, is more of a fraud than a fix."
Brennan's firm represents two consumers who have RV's covered by the supposed 'recall'."
Mac
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07-26-2006, 06:27 PM
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This is where towing weight comes into play. Most or all Class A RV's come with a tow hitch so the owners can tow a their pick-ups or passenger cars behind them as they drive down the highways. ("Class A" refers to the "bus" style of RV, where the engine and drivetrain and living compartment are all a part of one big bus-sized unit. In contrast, Class B RV's are usually "fifth wheels" which are towed behind, or sometimes on top of, a pick-up truck, and a "Class C" RV is more of a sleeper van conversion, much smaller than a Class A.) So, Class A RV's need to be able to tow the types of vehicles which RV owners use when they're not driving their RV's.
Hope they do a better job with their facts in court...
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07-26-2006, 08:51 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> 10,000 lbs. capacity would allow towing not only of smaller cars but also larger sedans and small- to mid-sized pick-up trucks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm with you Bob, wonder who wrote this!
BTW, nice rig  .
I have not seen a 10K lb mid-size pick-up  .
I have seen the occasional H2 Hummer and 1 ton crew cabs (with dualies even) behind these and other rigs. OOPS!
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07-28-2006, 05:49 AM
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They do have their facts a bit confused, but isn't that normal for lawyers. My 2005 Discovery was part of this "recall", and its very clear that the hitch receiver is still rated at its full original 10,000 lbs for towing loads directly connected to the receiver like most of us do. the only correction was the lower rating when using a Ball adapter, thats where the 5,000 lb rating applies.
Jim
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07-28-2006, 06:16 AM
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Hmmm....us "pickup" types have always had our receivers rated with dual ratings - mine is 5000 lbs total weight/500 lbs hitch weight with no weight distributing devices and 10000 lbs total weight/1000 lbs hitch weight when weight-distributing devices are used. I wonder if that's what they're trying to accomplish here?
Rusty
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07-28-2006, 07:13 AM
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Brennan's firm represents two consumers who have RV's covered by the supposed "recall". Each has had a lot of coach problems in addition to the misrepresentation about towing capacity.
Maybe the "other problems" are actually what they are upset about, but the tow rating can be targeted.
Ron
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