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Old 10-18-2017, 05:50 PM   #1
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Fleetwood’s Response to peeling material

I sent a letter along with photographs to Fleetwood, Flexsteel, Lazydays and Motorhome Magazine expressing my displeasure with the poor quality material used on my driver and passenger seats, the L-Shaped sofa and the dinette benches.

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I only use the driver’s seat while driving and I have driven it about 16,000 miles. We do not live in it full time. It is only used about 50 days per year.

I will say that Fleetwood did contact me by phone, however their response was to blame the material supplier. It seems that Fleetwood buys the material and supplies it to Flexsteel or whomever is manufacturing the furniture. So, a company which made possibly a $20 profit on the sale of my RV, made the decision that I should not be reimbursed for having to replace my 3 1/2 year old furniture. Fleetwood gets a “F” for their customer support after warranty. Furniture covering was warranted for 1 year. Fleetwood would not admit that the material was defective even though it peeled everyplace it was sewn.

I installed a Lazyboy recliner and four folding chairs. After removing the old furniture, they were donated to someone who’s RV had flooded during Hurricane Irma and they had no money or insurance to replace their furniture (At least one good thing came out of Fleetwood supplying poor quality furniture).

I still need to use the driver’s seat, so has anyone purchased covers for their seats? I would appreciate any references where I can purchase good quality covers.

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Actually, it is the tanneries fault (assuming that the cover is leather). One year leather warranty is standard in the home furnishings industry. Usually top coated leather will last for many years, but sometimes there is a bad batch from the tannery and the top coat peels much quicker than normal.
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I have a 2014 35K bounder. Did you any cleaning material on your furniture? I'm afraid that our furniture will do the same in time.
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Actually, it is the tanneries fault (assuming that the cover is leather). One year leather warranty is standard in the home furnishings industry. Usually top coated leather will last for many years, but sometimes there is a bad batch from the tannery and the top coat peels much quicker than normal.
Bounder does not have leather
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Maybe bonded leather? Low quality bonded leather will peel.
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Maybe bonded leather? Low quality bonded leather will peel.
I'll say it again, the Bounder of this era does not have leather seats, not even bonded leather.

They are a knock off of "ultra leather" if I understand correctly. Polyurethane. That is what my chairs say on the label.
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I doubt anything under $500,000 has real leather. But there are various grades of Ultra Leather.
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I have a 2014 35K bounder. Did you any cleaning material on your furniture? I'm afraid that our furniture will do the same in time.
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No cleaning material used, just mild soapy water when needed.
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I'll say it again, the Bounder of this era does not have leather seats, not even bonded leather.



They are a knock off of "ultra leather" if I understand correctly. Polyurethane. That is what my chairs say on the label.


The Bounder does not come with leather. However, the cloth fabric in my 2010 Dodge Ram looked pretty amazing after 70,000 miles. This is just a case of poor quality material being used on seat coverings.
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I doubt anything under $500,000 has real leather. But there are various grades of Ultra Leather.
Just to put that in perspective when we ordered my wife’s Mercedes in 2013 real leather was an option and the dealer told us most of their cars did not have real leather anymore. Also our coach a big brother to the Fleetwood does not have real leather and it had MSRP of around $550k. We also have some excess wear on the drivers seat in our coach BTW.

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If is is PU, then it is either real crappy PU, or a bad batch. It should last longer than 3 years, but usually warrantied for 1. Time to get it recovered in a material that you like. (Always trying to look at the bright side)
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I have a similar situation going on in my Terra.

The sofa material, a vinyl/leather looking material, is cracking and peeling like sunburned skin, all over....

A bit out of warranty so I'm thinking I'll have it re-upholstered

Anybody know of and can recommend a good quality, long(er) lasting material?

I don't mind spending a few bucks..... with-in reason obviously
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Most leather is tanned in China because of EPA regulations. Sadly it’s very poor quality
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Most leather is tanned in China because of EPA regulations. Sadly it’s very poor quality
It's not leather. It's vinyl simulated leather. Made badly right here in the good ol USA. Fleetwood is not the only mfr to have this issue. Best option is to re-upholster with Ultra-Leather. Pricey but UL has a good reputation for holding up.
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