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BarryN514 · 07-20-2014, 08:26 PM

This is what our rig has as far as I know.

120V/12V AC/DC Converter • Central Electrical Panel w/Charger. Dual 6V Deep-Cycle 217 Amp Auxiliary Batteries. I don't know if we have an inverter.

mojoracing · 07-20-2014, 10:45 PM

Isn't there another big red cutoff switch mounted in the compartment just rear of the entry door. In our bounder it is right next to the inverter. Never really looked close enough to see what it actually controls. This switch is in addition to the ones over the door.

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BarryN514 · 07-21-2014, 10:25 AM

Just got off the phone with FW and let me see if I can remember all he told me.

He said even though I turn off the disconnect switches that there is still some items that there is a small amount of power going to them to avoid resetting the memory all the time. I should have asked him what memories he was talking about.

For me to check the cells in all batteries.

Have FW dealer check the converter to see if it is charging like it should.

I don't have an inverter in this coach and not sure if I need one as I really don't see where I would use one. We don't run the TV or other items while we are driving and don't do much boon docking. Any comments on this?

SarahW · 07-21-2014, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mojoracing

Isn't there another big red cutoff switch mounted in the compartment just rear of the entry door. In our bounder it is right next to the inverter. Never really looked close enough to see what it actually controls. This switch is in addition to the ones over the door.

That's the inverter. Apparently Barry's Bounder Classic doesn't have an inverter.

BarryN514 · 07-21-2014, 11:22 AM

FW says our coach does not have a inverter.

SarahW · 07-21-2014, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BarryN514

I don't have an inverter in this coach and not sure if I need one as I really don't see where I would use one. We don't run the TV or other items while we are driving and don't do much boon docking. Any comments on this?

In my opinion

, it doesn't sound like you would have much use for an inverter, especially the model that they install in the regular Bounders. We are the same; we don't boon dock and if we ever do, we run the generator. Our inverter is pretty worthless; it would be nice if it would power the Keurig coffee maker or something, but it won't. We have to fire up the generator if we want coffee at a rest stop.

I would be curious to know exactly what parasitic draw(s) you have; I wish the Fleetwood guy had provided some specifics. I thought that even our LP and CO detectors were totally off and used 9-volt backup batteries when the coach power is cut. I can't think of a single thing on our Bounder that is powered when we cut off those master switches, so I'd like to know for sure.

BarryN514 · 07-21-2014, 12:21 PM

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I thought that even our LP and CO detectors were totally off

Thought that might be the problem, cause it was in our old coach but I looked at the green light in our present coach and when I flip the disconnect switches off, the light goes off.

When he mentioned "memory" he also mentioned appliances, such as frig setting and others. I totally turn off the frig when not in use.

SarahW · 07-21-2014, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BarryN514

Thought that might be the problem, cause it was in our old coach but I looked at the green light in our present coach and when I flip the disconnect switches off, the light goes off.

When he mentioned "memory" he also mentioned appliances, such as frig setting and others. I totally turn off the frig when not in use.

I don't believe he is correct; we also turn off our refrigerator while in storage. The only other appliances with "settings" are the clock on the microwave and the HVAC thermostat...which are also "off." I would call back and see if someone else has better information.

You might consider having your batteries tested and then using a trickle charger or leaving the coach plugged in while stored (if power is available).

BarryN514 · 07-21-2014, 01:38 PM

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You might consider having your batteries tested and then using a trickle charger or leaving the coach plugged in while stored (if power is available).

We have no power where we store our MH.

If push come to shove, I will put a disconnect on the main battery but I feel I shouldn't have to do that, then at least I won't have to jump that engine battery.

My book doesn't say which disconnect is for what. I have one that says, Main and the other one says Aux.

SarahW · 07-21-2014, 03:28 PM

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My book doesn't say which disconnect is for what. I have one that says, Main and the other one says Aux.

I believe the main is the chassis battery and the aux is the house.

jerichorick · 07-22-2014, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BarryN514

I don't have an inverter in this coach and not sure if I need one as I really don't see where I would use one. We don't run the TV or other items while we are driving and don't do much boon docking. Any comments on this?

Barry, I don't know how you came to this conclusion. Most newer coaches have none. You may have a "custom" build and had it eliminated but that does not sound logical to me. Even though YOU don't utilize certain features of your coach they may still exists. All of the coaches I have dealt with have a sub panel dedicated to the inverter, and a transfer switch to operate from shore power OR generator power. If you have a generator you do have an inverter and a transfer switch.

Please forgive me for this boldness. Have your read your owners manual concerning your electrical systems? Please review these documents and rethink your problem. In the RV world assumptions outside of facts lead to real confusion. Been there and done that. Very frustrating. I look forward to your new insight after you assure me that you have read the owners manual on the electrical system.

Rick Y

BarryN514 · 07-22-2014, 09:49 AM

Jerichorick,

Yes, have read the owner manual several time when I am trying to find something out. The problem I have with FW manuals is that they are very generic because one manual may apply to several different FW coach, not like the one I had with my National coach, it was for that coach.

This is what my 2013 FW coach manual says,

"Power Converter (If Equipped)
Power Inverter (If Equipped)"

I called FW yesterday and gave them my BCM # and they said my coach was not equipped with an Inverter!

I have read the entire chapter regarding the electrical section and it does not tell me why I am having the problem as stated in my first post. Even the person I talked to at FW would not give me a defined reason for my problem other than check this and check that.

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ELECTRICAL WIRING DIAGRAMS
Because of the many model, floor plans and option variations available, it is beyond the scope of this manual to include wiring dia- grams. In certain situations, specific wiring diagrams may be available to help troubleshoot a problem. If you need specific wiring informa- tion, please contact your dealer. Complete wir- ing diagrams are not available.

jerichorick · 07-23-2014, 08:11 AM

Barry, I am so sorry for my comment to you. I had no idea that FW produced coaches in that manner. How sad for folks like you, not to be able to get the support you need. Now I am stumped. Troubleshooting a phantom through this forum, with no practical experience with your product design, is impossible for me.

on doing your homework. It sounds to me like you need to keep the coach plugged in at all times. That is how it is designed. I hope someone else with your model and year coach will happen along to lend you a more valid hand. Too bad FW could not be of greater support.

My error in troubleshooting this problem was "assuming". This is my third coach, all used, and all have had inverters in all of them. My first was a Discovery with an inverter. Don't recall that it was an option, and I was thinking "standard equipment". I certainly blew this one.

I hope you get this problem solved soon.

Rick Y