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Old 12-19-2015, 12:24 PM   #1
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SMI Stay-n-Play DUO braking system

I just purchased a 2012 Jeep JK Sahara with 25000 miles on it and it came with a Blue OX base plate (that's good as I use Blue OX tow bar). While checking it out I discovered that it also has an SMI Stay-N-Play DUO braking system, this is also good! The Jeep has a four wire plug in the front of the Jeep so I will have to get some wiring installed (or do it myself). Is there anything that I will have to buy for the Coach (2004 Pace Arrow) with the Work Horse 8.1 GM. I did get the LED light for the Jeep windshield to let me know that the towed brakes are working. So far this has turned out to be a great deal.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Nope. The brake light signal on the 4-wire cable for the lights is all you need. That is already tapped in the car.
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I also have this system installed on my 2009 Saturn Vue and also tow this behind my 2003 Pace Arrow - same engine as yours. My connection uses a 6 pin connector - extra 2 pins connect a "red light" located on my dash to indicate the toad brakes are working when coach brakes are activated and a hot wire from the coach to the SMI system to ensure the toad battery does not become discharged -

Did you get the manual from the previous owner ? If not, contact customer service at SMI for assistance or find a local SMI authorized dealer for assistance. This is not one component that you do not want to "screw up" if you know what I mean !!
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I also have this system installed on my 2009 Saturn Vue and also tow this behind my 2003 Pace Arrow - same engine as yours. My connection uses a 6 pin connector - extra 2 pins connect a "red light" located on my dash to indicate the toad brakes are working when coach brakes are activated and a hot wire from the coach to the SMI system to ensure the toad battery does not become discharged -

Did you get the manual from the previous owner ? If not, contact customer service at SMI for assistance or find a local SMI authorized dealer for assistance. This is not one component that you do not want to "screw up" if you know what I mean !!
As withzorro2kita, I put the indicator light for the toad brakes on the RV dash, not in the toad. Also, don't forget to adjust the toad brake's sensitivity knob.
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Old 12-20-2015, 09:27 PM   #5
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As withzorro2kita, I put the indicator light for the toad brakes on the RV dash, not in the toad. Also, don't forget to adjust the toad brake's sensitivity knob.

Adjust it how or to what?
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Adjust it how or to what?
I am pasting in the adjustment from the manual - it's also available in its entirety online and you should get it and read it thru - won't take long. I have this unit in a Kia Soul and it has worked great for two motor homes, one of which is a DP. Will also use it for our new Tiffin Allegro Bus 37AP when we get it in mid-January! Our first coach was a NAVION IQ so we needed this one, not the air force one, but it works just fine with our air braked coach - have put about 9,000 miles on the current rig in the last year.

Step 12: Adjusting the G-Force Controller
Note: The Stay-IN-Play Duo’s activation is progressive in nature. It is designed to activate
briefly in normal stopping (20+ MPH) and longer in harder/panic stopping. When
adjusted correctly, the Stay-In-Play DUO WILL NOT activate while stationary.
1. Locate the vehicles on level ground and turn the switch to “ON.” Place the black knob on
the G-Force Controller at the bottom of the slot and have an assistant step on the brake
pedal of the coach. At this point the system should activate. If it does not, remove the
front screw from the G-force Controller and lower it until the unit activates and then resecure
it in this location. Slowly raise the knob up. The system may begin chattering,
keep raising the knob. As soon as the pump shuts off completely and then go up another
1/8”. Tighten down the black knob to ensure it does not move.
2. Test drive the coach while pulling the towed. Drive and stop NORMALLY as these are
the conditions for which you want to configure the braking system. The system should
not come on in normal stopping below 20 mph.
3. If while traveling the system activates too often, raise the knob 1/16”. Repeat step 2.
4. If while traveling the system doesn’t activate often enough, lower the knob 1/16”. Repeat
step 2.
*The DUO system operates the brakes of the vehicle in the same manner as you would.
The more often it comes on, the more quickly the brakes of the vehicle will wear. The
above adjustment will equal normal driving mileage on the brakes.
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:39 PM   #7
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I am pasting in the adjustment from the manual - it's also available in its entirety online and you should get it and read it thru - won't take long. I have this unit in a Kia Soul and it has worked great for two motor homes, one of which is a DP. Will also use it for our new Tiffin Allegro Bus 37AP when we get it in mid-January! Our first coach was a NAVION IQ so we needed this one, not the air force one, but it works just fine with our air braked coach - have put about 9,000 miles on the current rig in the last year.

Step 12: Adjusting the G-Force Controller
Note: The Stay-IN-Play Duo’s activation is progressive in nature. It is designed to activate
briefly in normal stopping (20+ MPH) and longer in harder/panic stopping. When
adjusted correctly, the Stay-In-Play DUO WILL NOT activate while stationary.
1. Locate the vehicles on level ground and turn the switch to “ON.” Place the black knob on
the G-Force Controller at the bottom of the slot and have an assistant step on the brake
pedal of the coach. At this point the system should activate. If it does not, remove the
front screw from the G-force Controller and lower it until the unit activates and then resecure
it in this location. Slowly raise the knob up. The system may begin chattering,
keep raising the knob. As soon as the pump shuts off completely and then go up another
1/8”. Tighten down the black knob to ensure it does not move.
2. Test drive the coach while pulling the towed. Drive and stop NORMALLY as these are
the conditions for which you want to configure the braking system. The system should
not come on in normal stopping below 20 mph.
3. If while traveling the system activates too often, raise the knob 1/16”. Repeat step 2.
4. If while traveling the system doesn’t activate often enough, lower the knob 1/16”. Repeat
step 2.
*The DUO system operates the brakes of the vehicle in the same manner as you would.
The more often it comes on, the more quickly the brakes of the vehicle will wear. The
above adjustment will equal normal driving mileage on the brakes.
Thanks for your help. I got hold of the people that installed it and I'm going there to have them make me a cable and give me a copy of the owners manual. Thanks everyone.
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