Steps won't stay out

[loulong]

Hi, I have a '97 Bounder 34V. I have a step switch on the dash that indicates it is to be used to keep the steps out even when the door is closed. I have another step switch by the entry door that is simply a rocker type switch. I assume it is simply an ON/OFF switch. They worked correctly for 14 years, but recently started failing.

My problem; The steps will retract regardless of the position of either switch whenever the door closes.

The diagrams provided by Kwikee always just shows the one ON/OFF power switch (not the second dash switch). Can anyone tell me how these switches are actually wired?

[La-Z-Boy]

Most MH's have an override to these switches when the key is in the on position. Have you had this problem with the key off?

[loulong]

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Originally Posted by La-Z-Boy Most MH's have an override to these switches when the key is in the on position. Have you had this problem with the key off?

The key is off when the problem occurs. The ignition override works properly because the steps will absolutely retract when the ignition is turned on, even with the door open.

I just need to know how the switches are wired.

[Clifftall]

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Originally Posted by loulong The key is off when the problem occurs. The ignition override works properly because the steps will absolutely retract when the ignition is turned on, even with the door open. I just need to know how the switches are wired.

Try emailing Power Gear ( they bought Kwikee ) info@powergearus.com .

They are very responsive to inquires on Power Gear and I hope they will be on Kwikee for you as well.

[Steve N Sal]

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Originally Posted by Clifftall Try emailing Power Gear ( they bought Kwikee ) info@powergearus.com . They are very responsive to inquires on Power Gear and I hope they will be on Kwikee for you as well.

Hope you have better luck then I did. They never responded to any emails I sent them concerning Kwikee steps.

[Clifftall]

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Originally Posted by Steve N Sal Hope you have better luck then I did. They never responded to any emails I sent them concerning Kwikee steps.

Maybe they have a different tech group for Kwikee. The PG guys couldn't be more helpful to me on past PG issues. I'd try them again and ask them to assist in getting to the Kwikee techs.

[DBeauchamp]

I had exactly the same problem on my new used mh when I bought in August. There are only 3 signals going into the step controller, ignition, door contact (door open,door close) and the overide switch. The other two wires are 12 volts and ground. And you may have a courtesy light. With a test light I could see that all my signals were working so it turned out to be the step controller. My steps were SCS Frigette 725-0022 and the coach step module (controller) was 29-SP164889. Controller was replaced by dealer on warranty but if you google the part #, it's about $150.

[DBeauchamp]

And, forgot to mention. The symptom you are describing is as if the ignition signal was always present, so pay particular attention to the ignition key signal going into the step controller.

[loulong]

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Originally Posted by DBeauchamp And, forgot to mention. The symptom you are describing is as if the ignition signal was always present, so pay particular attention to the ignition key signal going into the step controller.

NO, it's not like the ignition is always on, because the symptoms change when the key is turned on. i.e. it reacts as expected

I asked about how the second step switch that Fleetwood installs (never shown on Kwikee diagrams) is wired. No one seems to know....

[loulong]

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Originally Posted by DBeauchamp I had exactly the same problem on my new used mh when I bought in August. There are only 3 signals going into the step controller, ignition, door contact (door open,door close) and the overide switch. The other two wires are 12 volts and ground. And you may have a courtesy light. With a test light I could see that all my signals were working so it turned out to be the step controller. My steps were SCS Frigette 725-0022 and the coach step module (controller) was 29-SP164889. Controller was replaced by dealer on warranty but if you google the part #, it's about $150.

I appreciate your response, but I specifically posted my problem here to see if any of the FLEETWOOD owners knew how the second step switch is actually wired into the step controls.

I understand how Kwikee designed the system and how the various signals work, and I understand the controller inputs. What I don't understand is how and where this second switch is wired into the mix.

My problem may be a bad Kwikee controller, but my question is a Fletwood question.

[DBeauchamp]

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Originally Posted by loulong My problem; The steps will retract regardless of the position of either switch whenever the door closes.

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Originally Posted by loulong NO, it's not like the ignition is always on, because the symptoms change when the key is turned on. i.e. it reacts as expected

Hate to debate but if the steps always retract when you close the door, they are behaving as if the ignition was on. I bet if you turn the step switch to off then they remain retracted..
Anyways, good luck, happy new year.

[Clifftall]

There is a Bounder group on Yahoo that I belong to. Many of the members have the same model/year as yours. Maybe someone there can assist you. Here is the link bounder : Bounder Owners .

Cliff

[Clifftall]

Lou

Did you ever figure out the steps ?

Cliff

[loulong]

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Originally Posted by Clifftall Lou Did you ever figure out the steps ? Cliff

Cliff, I haven't had time to really check on the step problem. I've been busy rewiring my battery negative leads to accommodate the shunt for my TriMetric.

I did get one response that attempted to answer my initial question about how the "Power ON" switch, by the door, and the dash "Hold step Extended" switch work, but I haven't confirmed that yet.

The theory is that they are wired in parallel and, essentially, do the same thing.

Kwikee never shows the second switch, and Fleetwood has not been able to provide a drawing of the harness to show how they employed the second switch.

Thanks for asking. lou