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Old 03-17-2015, 02:55 PM   #43
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I like my little Detroit series 40
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Old 03-17-2015, 03:10 PM   #44
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You can bet that Cummins shop does "NOT" want that job to be warranty. Not enough gravy for them!


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Old 03-17-2015, 03:58 PM   #45
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You need to check with your state consumer affairs department.

If the same part failed and was fixed under warranty then the repairedpart may have warranty.
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Having the same engine is making me very nervous!!! and I think my date of manufacture is within a month or so...
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If the same part failed and was fixed under warranty then the repaired part may have warranty.
It did, one year or 100,000 miles but it failed in four years and 25,000 miles. The Cummins warranty is geared for truckers that drive a lot and sit little unlike a MH's use.

Anyway, this has been hashed out enough, now just waiting for it to play out.
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Old 03-17-2015, 06:36 PM   #48
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Mr_D, is it at cummins in coburg or Swan Island? just curious as my friends that own a cummins seem to have better luck at the Swan Island cummins.
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It may be too late but feb 19 to mar 10 is less than 30 days.

There may be warranty rules in place unless specifically sold as-is where is.

For 28k I would be looking under every rock and pebble for something...
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Old 03-18-2015, 05:06 PM   #50
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Yep, quote is $28,879.32 even after applying a couple discounts like the Cummins club.
Reading on the Internet shows a few problems but there aren't 650 ISX's in use in trucks as that's usually a MH only rating.
Good grief a whole new mill is only about 30K. Granted this one is a 500hp model but the 650 can't be that much more.

I guess my point is 29K and climbing for a repair seems darn steep to me.
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Good grief a whole new mill is only about 30K. Granted this one is a 500hp model but the 650 can't be that much more.

I guess my point is 29K and climbing for a repair seems darn steep to me.
Good point! But Mr_D's estimate includes, I believe, a new turbo, and installation.
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Good point! But Mr_D's estimate includes, I believe, a new turbo, and installation.
Well that may be true, and I get that labor rates are about 100-120/hr. So where is the other 20K + going? BTW the motor I posted HAS the turbo.

So lets say new engine complete 30K, 8 hours out, 8 hours in, 6 hours programming and futzing. Thats still only about 32K. Now if it were me, I'd spend the extra 4-6K to have a completely new engine with a FULL warranty. Because I can tell you I would go completely postal if that engine dropped another valve in my lifetime after the 2nd repair and 28K+
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It may be too late but feb 19 to mar 10 is less than 30 days.

There may be warranty rules in place unless specifically sold as-is where is.

For 28k I would be looking under every rock and pebble for something...
Yep, AS -IS sale. I have the signed papers showing that.

There is more but I won't comment on it right now. Waiting to see how it plays out.
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Mr D,

You have my sincerest sympathy for what you're going through..

Normally I wish, pray and hope my lottery number are the right ones... This weekend I will be wishing, hoping and praying yours are the ones... So, if your state has powerball, buy yourself a ticket and know you have someone rooting for you..

I wish I could more help, but it seems you got a handle on things... You have a great support network here to share the pain, cheer the victories and deal with the defeats..

Good luck and God bless
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Well that may be true, and I get that labor rates are about 100-120/hr. So where is the other 20K + going? BTW the motor I posted HAS the turbo.

So lets say new engine complete 30K, 8 hours out, 8 hours in, 6 hours programming and futzing. Thats still only about 32K. Now if it were me, I'd spend the extra 4-6K to have a completely new engine with a FULL warranty. Because I can tell you I would go completely postal if that engine dropped another valve in my lifetime after the 2nd repair and 28K+
Well, if I could have a new engine and turbo for $10K more, I'm with you, I would rather do that than a rebuild that could potentially have a similar issue in the future. You could offset some of the cost by selling the old core!
Having said that, I know Mr_D knows the situation better and would make the right decision.
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Well, if I could have a new engine and turbo for $10K more, I'm with you, I would rather do that than a rebuild that could potentially have a similar issue in the future. You could offset some of the cost by selling the old core!
Having said that, I know Mr_D knows the situation better and would make the right decision.
I agree, and I'm only speaking for myself of course. Mainly brought this up because I'm thinking, to me, I'd better be getting a new engine for that kind of cash.
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