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Old 05-25-2018, 08:57 AM   #1
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Any Veranda Owners here?

Beside myself? I'm one, and I've been doing some maintenance/repair on my veranda that only applies to the Veranda model. That said, I'm quite sure that every Veranda owner should tackle this issue before it causes damage to the drop-down veranda. Let me know if anyone is interested in the details of the problem.
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Old 05-27-2018, 08:54 AM   #2
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I know of another Veranda owner. His is a 600 series and has the ISX 650 which has also dropped a valve in #6 like mine.
My Magna is #6999 and his Veranda is #6998. We have spent a lot of time answering questions back and forth.
He is not active on this forum but is on some of the CC facebook ones.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:23 PM   #3
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Hi my name is larry C , I have a 2009 Veranda 600,
Iíve had for it 4 years , blew the engine at 18,,0000 miles , dropped # 6 valve and took out 5 and 6 cylinders. No help from those blood suckers at Cummins ..All kinds of other issues as well, I just fix it and move on.
I think I know the issue your talking about , itís the 1 1/2Ē white metal pieces that slide at the end on the veranda. They separate and the Veranda will be cockeyed when retracted
I went to a machine shop and had them make a pair out of steel and also an inch longer. No problems since.
Iím interested in talking to mr D. I know heís had issues with Cummins. I know of 14 other 650 hp that have dropped #6 valve.
My email is jaguarblackcat@gmail.com
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:06 PM   #4
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I too have an 09 Affinity that needed an engine rebuild. I caught it before the #6 piston went. That shared I was concerned when I bought it and negotiated the rebuild into the deal price. What I discovered when they tore down the motor was a mess and a full rebuild took place. All is well now and it runs like a champ. I couldnít be more pleased.
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A stitch in time . . .

Hi Bison,

I've not had an issue with the piece that you describe. I'll give them a close inspection and plan ahead on that. I've not had an issue with my ISM 500 and, of course, hope I never experience what you and Mr_D have with your ISX.

These three pictures show the issue that you might want to take care of before you have another issue with your veranda. The screws along the bottom of the veranda fiberglass skin will rust and let go of the square steel frame of the veranda. This allows the skin to move outward and when the veranda is lowered the fiberglass hinge covers will be the first things to hit the fixed fiberglass below and something has to give. My hinge cover pieces broke free and make a loud snap when doing so. Luckily, the pieces were not damaged much and I was able to repair the damage without much effort. If more screws had rusted through then the entire veranda fiberglass can catch on the coach body and I'd hate to think what would happen at that point.

The easy thing to do is to lift the screw cover from the bottom and replace the original or add stainless screws leaving the originals in place. I left the original screws in place and added stainless screws between them. My procedure was to drill a clearance hole through the strip that the OEM screws pass through, drill a pilot hole into the square frame of the veranda, and then tap a hole for the stainless screw. Country Coach shortcut all this by using self tapping screws but they're not stainless because stainless is too soft to be a self tapping screw. Oh well, that's history now.
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Hi BonS, my 2009 Veranda is a little different than yours in which I donít think Iíll have a problem with what you described, I havenít figured out how to send a pic on the forum yet as I am not quite familiar with it yet. Yesterdayís post was my first. Click image for larger version

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Hi BonS hereís a pic of the white metal piece which will spread over time and come off the track. Click image for larger version

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Hi BonS, my 2009 Veranda is a little different than yours in which I donít think Iíll have a problem with what you described, I havenít figured out how to send a pic on the forum yet as I am not quite familiar with it yet. Yesterdayís post was my first.
Your pictures are fine, and yes, your hinge covers are certainly different. I'd still recommend looking underneath the screw cover for indications of rust. The cover is quite pliable. Mine has a thin silicone bead along the top of the screw cover and it remained fully intact while I lifted the screw cover from the bottom to work on the screws. You don't have any hinge covers to worry about but the entire fiberglass sheet will bow out when some of the screws fail and the sheet will collide with the body work just below.

Thanks for the picture of the channel on the slide. I have the same setup and will examine them for wear and spreading. They look like relatively easy pieces to replicate. I may be overthinking this, but I'm thinking about using Delrin or glass filled PEEK instead of metal. There shouldn't be a lot of forces on the slide as it's only the weight and resistance of the hand rail components pivoting. What material did you use?
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I used steel on mine and I know that they will never spread. A little grease twice a year. I will keep a close eye on my Veranda. Thanks.
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