Go Back   iRV2 Forums > THE OWNER'S CORNER FORUMS > Country Coach Owners Forum
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-09-2013, 04:42 PM   #1
Moderator Emeritus
 
smlranger's Avatar


 
Country Coach Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 7,273
Blog Entries: 1
Brake light issue, stumped...

I thought my LED high mount brake light was dead so removed it and checked it in my shop with a known 12 v source. It worked fine.

Back to the coach and cannot get 12v on the + wire going to that light even though the incandescent brake lights work fine in the tail light assemblies. Verified ground wire is fine. No fuses blown and I cannot find anything in the massive chassis wiring diagrams that suggest this light is on a separate circuit. All brake signals seem to come from a brake signal solenoid in the driver's outside bay. Verified good signal coming from that when brakes applied.

So, wired high mount directly to a brake light line going into the left tail light assembly and it still will not work. I don't see any diodes in any of these wires so at this point I am stumped.
__________________

__________________
'07 Country Coach Allure 470 Siskiyou Summit #31578, Cummins ISL 425; 2014 Ford F150 toad; Air Force One Toad Brake.
Glen Allen, VA; Smith Mountain Lake, VA.
smlranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 06-09-2013, 05:58 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
trackman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,136
You will also have to ground the high mount light to that brake light line ground wire.
__________________

__________________
trackman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 06:02 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
jnp_macklin's Avatar
 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Georgie Boy Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Hamilton, Ohio
Posts: 116
Sounds like a bad ground wire is the culprit.... even after you pigtailed it off the left hand brake light.....
__________________
The Macklin's - 1998 Georgie Boy 'Pursuit'
Pete: Pilot/Mechanic - Jen: Navigator/Travel Planner
Taylor & Patrick - Along for the ride....
jnp_macklin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2013, 07:19 PM   #4
Moderator Emeritus
 
smlranger's Avatar


 
Country Coach Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 7,273
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnp_macklin View Post
Sounds like a bad ground wire is the culprit.... even after you pigtailed it off the left hand brake light.....
No, ground is solid. If I jumper the + wire on the LED light to a known 12v source in the engine bay, light works fine. My issue is getting a 12V source to it that is on the brake light circuit. What is really confusing is the wire that is connected to the brake signal relay in the front bay (clearly marked with a 4 digit number) is in the engine bay, same number. However, no voltage detected on that wire when brakes applied....but, the two brake bulbs work in the tail lights. Makes me think there is more than one circuit

Guess I'm calling Greg at CC tomorrow.
__________________
'07 Country Coach Allure 470 Siskiyou Summit #31578, Cummins ISL 425; 2014 Ford F150 toad; Air Force One Toad Brake.
Glen Allen, VA; Smith Mountain Lake, VA.
smlranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 08:27 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 931
I found out the hard way that there's a seperate fuse pannel for the rear lights. Ours is under the bottom drawer below the breaker pannel in the back of the coach. I was talking to the mechanic who use to build CC and he said the engineers hide those pannels all over the place. We have a 2002 Intrigue 36'. Good luck electrical issues can drive you over the edge.
__________________
pumper9x9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 08:30 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 931
Another thougt is that you might run your power from the pig tail to the toad hook up.
__________________
pumper9x9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 09:49 AM   #7
Moderator Emeritus
 
smlranger's Avatar


 
Country Coach Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 7,273
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by pumper9x9 View Post
Another thougt is that you might run your power from the pig tail to the toad hook up.
I did notice late yesterday a panel in the engine bay which I will inspect today. I could not locate any others inside the coach but will ask tech support at CC when I call them today.

My alternative plan is to do as you suggested; jumper a wire from the toad pig tail.
__________________
'07 Country Coach Allure 470 Siskiyou Summit #31578, Cummins ISL 425; 2014 Ford F150 toad; Air Force One Toad Brake.
Glen Allen, VA; Smith Mountain Lake, VA.
smlranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 12:11 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
sallylillian's Avatar
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 133
I have a fuse panel in the engine bay top right looking in, 2 screws hold cover. Inside are a bunch of fuses that relate to lights and the tow plug. Might be one of those?
Michael
2008 Allure 470
__________________
sallylillian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 01:17 PM   #9
Moderator Emeritus
 
smlranger's Avatar


 
Country Coach Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 7,273
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by sallylillian View Post
I have a fuse panel in the engine bay top right looking in, 2 screws hold cover. Inside are a bunch of fuses that relate to lights and the tow plug. Might be one of those?
Michael
2008 Allure 470
I have same panel and will be checking that this evening. I did talk to Greg at CC and he advises there is no separate fuse or circuit for the high mount light and it is fed from the driver's side tail light assembly. On some coaches, he advises they fed it from both the left and right tail lights for redundancy. Hard to believe that both wires would have a problem.

Curious, I recently saw (last week) a 42' Allure 470 that looked just like the coach in your avatar at Tom Johnson's RV park in Concord, NC.
__________________
'07 Country Coach Allure 470 Siskiyou Summit #31578, Cummins ISL 425; 2014 Ford F150 toad; Air Force One Toad Brake.
Glen Allen, VA; Smith Mountain Lake, VA.
smlranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2013, 03:00 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
sallylillian's Avatar
 
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 133
Sorry was not us. We are a 37ft Sunset Bay based in the UK, but currently in mid France en route back to the UK after touring Italy. Good luck with the fuses, I was chasing another problem when I found this panel in the engine bay, to find that some moron had replaced 2 off of the 7.5 amp fuses with 20 & 30! Probably to do with the tow plug.

Michael
2008 Allure
__________________

__________________
sallylillian is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
brake



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.